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Studying Marketing, Branding, Communication in Warsaw, any good university?


Tianlong  
24 Jun 2015 /  #1
Hello everyone!
As mentioned above, I would like to look for a public university in Warsaw to study a Master's degree on Marketing/Branding/Communication/Media. I have checked SGH and University of Warsaw but probably I didn't find one (it's rare, I'm surprised). Would you mind suggesting me any university? In the worst scene, ones in other cities (Krakow, Lodz, Wroclaw...) is ok, too.

Thank you so much in advanced!!
DominicB  - | 2706  
24 Jun 2015 /  #2
I would like to look for a public university in Warsaw to study a Master's degree on Marketing/Branding/Communication/Media.

A degree in any of those fields from a school in Poland would entitle you to park cars, put cans on supermarket shelves, sweep floors or wash dishes. In other words, degrees like this are just about useless, unless they are from top schools, none of which are in Poland. And even then, they are not all that useful.

Study something useful that will help you get a highly-paid and rewarding career, something with tons of applied mathematics like financial engineering, financial mathematics, econometrics, actuarial sciences or a highly-paid engineering field like petroleum, geological or biomedical engineering.

People with degrees in easy, math-free fields like marketing and communications are as common as cockroaches, and there are far too many graduates for the number of jobs available. Most end up working in low paid jobs sweeping floors, washing dishes, or putting cans on supermarket shelves, if they are lucky to find work at all. Or even worse, they end up in telemarketing or direct marketing doing cold-call sales, one of the worst jobs on the planet.

If you want a future worth living for you and your future family, hit the books, beef up your math, and study a useful field like the ones I mentioned above at a good university in the rich countries of Western Europe, the English speaking countries, South Korea or Japan. Your children will love you for it. Math is money, and as far as your future kids are concerned, math is love.
jon357  72 | 22798  
24 Jun 2015 /  #3
People with degrees in easy, math-free fields like marketing and communications are as common as cockroaches, and there are far too many graduates for the number of jobs available.

Most people I know have Arts or Humanities or Law - and none of them are doing those things. I do however know people with a passion for Marketing and very good careers in it.

Personally, If I had my time again, I'd do Dentistry or Law - though I'm happy with my two (one of them non-Maths based) degrees and the opportunities they've brought.

@Tianlong, maybe time to do a (perhaps non-work related) degree in an intellectually rigorous subject and them follow it up with Marketing as a Masters, further own the line.
DominicB  - | 2706  
24 Jun 2015 /  #4
Most people I know have Arts or Humanities or Law - and none of them are doing those things.

Classic case of sampling bias. Also, no one here on PF seems to appreciate the value of humorous hyperbole.

If I had my time again, I'd do Dentistry or Law

Dentistry opens doors, though not for a foreigner in Poland. Law doesn't, unless you have good connections. Most people who graduate from law school never work a single day as a lawyer, both in Poland and the US. It's a notoriously difficult profession to break into, and in both countries, law schools produce far more graduates than the market can absorb.

I'm happy with my two (one of them non-Maths based) degrees

Have two humanities degrees myself. Yes, they make you richer person spiritually, mentally and culturally, but I'm glad I have my science and medicine degrees to butter my bread, as well.

By the way, I don't consider marketing, media and communications as "humanities" or "liberal arts". They are too vocational for that.

follow it up with Marketing as a Masters, further own the line.

The OP is asking about masters programs, not undergraduate programs.

maybe time to do a (perhaps non-work related) degree in an intellectually rigorous subject

Which is more or less what I suggested. Watch this brief speech by Guy Kawasaki for similar advice based on the regrets of what most people consider a fabulously successful man:

youtube.com/watch?v=4PSR09ZSfTY
jon357  72 | 22798  
24 Jun 2015 /  #5
Classic case of sampling bias

Sampling bias if we're talking stats - good advice since we're talking life.

The OP is asking about masters programs, not undergraduate programs.

Then she should look at an MBA - the ones in Poland aren't the best, however the Polish Academy of Sciences has an interesting modular programme for people who are further down their career path - I'm considering it myself, not as a CV thing but out of interest and to pick up a few skills.

Dentistry opens doors, though not for a foreigner in Poland. Law doesn't, unless you have good connections.

I wouldn't want to practise dentistry in Poland - there are simply too many people. And law, but not necessarily to practise it. And yes, I do have very good connections.

The OP is asking about masters programs, not undergraduate programs.

Your advice to the OP relates more to pre-experience people, rather than someone established enough in their career to be looking for an MA. Though yes, I would think it's better for the OP to do one pert time near their home. I know there are mixed opinions on this, however continuity of work is always a plus.
DominicB  - | 2706  
24 Jun 2015 /  #6
Your advice to the OP relates more to pre-experience people, rather than someone established enough in their career to be looking for an MA.

I got the impression from the OP's post that they have no experience and are fresh out of undergrad school. In any case, they say nothing about experience, so both of us are working on different assumptions.
jon357  72 | 22798  
24 Jun 2015 /  #7
I got the impression from the OP's post that they have no experience and are fresh out of undergrad school.

If yes, the OP would do better to get some experience - even at a very low level. My heart sinks when I get CV's from people with all education and precious little to show they can do the job - those people never quite work out :-(

In any case, they say nothing about experience, so both of us are working on different assumptions.

Looks that way. With marketing, there are so many options in a career path, however I feel if someone can't get hired onto a graduate management training scheme after the BA, they won't if it's immediately followed by an MA either. Much more sensible to get some experience and then do an MBA - which hopefully the employer would sponsor at somewhere excellent.
DominicB  - | 2706  
24 Jun 2015 /  #8
I feel if someone can't get hired onto a graduate management training scheme after the BA, they won't if it's immediately followed by an MA either.

Agree on that.

Much more sensible to get some experience and then do an MBA - which hopefully the employer would sponsor at somewhere excellent.

Or take advantage of their youth and upgrade to a field with much better job prospects and lifetime savings potential.

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