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Possibly of Moving - Life in Krakow on a Salary of € 45,000


irish girl  
30 Mar 2007 /  #1
how much money will we come out with monthly in krakow on a salary of 45,000 euros. how much will furnished accommodation cost to rent not too far from the city centre? we have 2 kids so dont want to be right in the centre of town but near enough to schools etc. cant decide whether it is worthwhile or not to move. cant find any relevant info on internet...house rentals seem expensive
daffy 23 | 1,508  
30 Mar 2007 /  #2
€45,000 you'd live apretty good life in Krakow!

what are you planning at working as? if you mind me asking?

im sure the rest can help re the rental costs etc. but the cost of living with a 45k salary is bardzo dobrze
irish girl 3 | 23  
30 Mar 2007 /  #3
it
what does bd mean?
what do you mean the rest can help re rental costs?
szarlotka 8 | 2,209  
30 Mar 2007 /  #4
what does bd mean?

Bd = very good

The rest can help means other people on the Forum who live there will be able to provide accurate costs of living for you.

Hi by the way

Sorry if I stole your thunder Daffy. Game starts in 5 mins, England are batting
daffy 23 | 1,508  
30 Mar 2007 /  #5
Sorry if I stole your thunder Daffy. Game starts in 5 mins, England are batting

no bother, you got it spot on :) c'mon ireland!! :)
irish girl 3 | 23  
30 Mar 2007 /  #6
thanks
what about polish tax though...do we basically assume half of the salary goes on that?
szarlotka 8 | 2,209  
30 Mar 2007 /  #7
There is a whole discussion thread on Polish taxation, health insurance etc. soemwhere in the Forum. Use the search box with the word tax in and then select the in body of message option and you should find it.
irish girl 3 | 23  
30 Mar 2007 /  #8
thanks
still doesnt tell me how much we will come out with though...however sounds like its good. what about schools. know anything about polish schools? what is krakow like? and i'm not really asking about the craic or guinness as our kids are still a bit small for us to be let out and enjoy all of that!
szarlotka 8 | 2,209  
30 Mar 2007 /  #9
still doesnt tell me how much we will come out with though

Most of the big accountancy firms publish tax guides on-line that you can download. Try pwc.com and navigate to their Polish site. (it's in English too).

Are you thinking of private schools or Polish state schools.

Krakow is a beautiful city. Can't comment too much cos I spent most of my time in Warsaw. I am sure there are people on the Forum from there who will provide you with lots of information when they come on line.
irish girl 3 | 23  
30 Mar 2007 /  #10
dunno coz have heard the private ones are about 10k per year but dont know anything about polish schools..are they scary?
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
31 Mar 2007 /  #11
are they scary?

Yes.
.
irish girl 3 | 23  
31 Mar 2007 /  #12
so where do we send our kids to school in cracow? int schools v expensive
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
31 Mar 2007 /  #13
so where do we send our kids to school in cracow?

No idea. You wanted to send them to Polish school ? Do they know any Polish ?
irish girl 3 | 23  
31 Mar 2007 /  #14
no...they are only small 5 and 2. the 5 year old has been in french school up to now. are there french schools in cracow? someone must know...cant find anything on internet apart from international schools which seem v xpensive...suppose because companies are paying the fees which wont be our case.
slwkk 2 | 228  
31 Mar 2007 /  #15
no...they are only small 5 and 2. the 5 year old has been in french school up to now. are there french schools in cracow? someone must know...cant find anything on internet

Hi, so you working in IT... ok, good - i suppose don't need explain you what is the usenet. You should post your question to Cracov's regional newsgroup - pl.regionalne.krakow (people there should know more details about schools and so on)

Your task is find usenet server that will allow you posting to polish newsgroups. You can try news.tpi.pl / for example make the following:

[slwkk@slawcio ~]$ telnet news.tpi.pl 119
Trying 193.110.122.97.119...
Connected to gigaeth-gw.news.tpi.pl.
Escape character is '^]'.
200 atlantis.news.tpi.pl InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.3.4 ready (posting ok).

(as you see in my case - posting ok)

if you won't find any mail me... i will try figure sth out.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
31 Mar 2007 /  #16
are there french schools in cracow?

I don't know. But I don't think that these international schools are so very expensive.
irish girl 3 | 23  
31 Mar 2007 /  #17
try 10,000 euros a year for british school and american school!!
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
31 Mar 2007 /  #18
Seriosly ?? Maybe 10.000 PLN ?
irish girl 3 | 23  
31 Mar 2007 /  #19
seriously...check out their sites.....
daffy 23 | 1,508  
31 Mar 2007 /  #20
they are young enough to learn polish it seems?

there are plenty of language schools around and you get them to learn french/english/german after main school no problem. and as they are at such a young age they would not have so much difficultly with it as we would.

its an option :/
irish girl 3 | 23  
31 Mar 2007 /  #21
dunno if throwing them into polish schools scary?

anyway, how difficult is it to learn polish..i already speak french and spanish..are there any similarities?
daffy 23 | 1,508  
31 Mar 2007 /  #22
i wouldnt say so. its another language branch. but well worth learning

i wouldnt know if its 'scary' or not BUT isn't a new school always scary anyway?

perhaps a month or two of lessons so the kids feel they can handle basic polish?

is moving to poland looking like an option
irish girl 3 | 23  
31 Mar 2007 /  #23
will know more next week..
daffy 23 | 1,508  
31 Mar 2007 /  #24
and i wish you the best!!

let us know!!
bookratt  
10 Apr 2007 /  #25
I checked out the Polish sites on Polish public preschools someone on another thread posted, but as it's in Polish and we haven't taken the language classes yet, I cannot make much sense of it, even though I tried to use some online translators I found. They don't work well.

A BIG QUESTION: if you are in Poland temporarily or as a guest worker (or your husband is) can your children even go to Polish public school at all? You are not permanent residents, right?

I have the same questions, too, as we may be in the same boat come end of Summer and I'd like to know.

There is supposed to be an international school in Krakow, where we will live, that the diplomat's children go to, that I heard the US state dept sometimes pays for, or helps with costs, for their own employees.

BUT we are not with the state dept, we are not wealthy and have no connections, so we will probably have to pay for most of it ourselves.

Here in the states where we are, we pay property tax based on our house/land size and value and that property tax pays for the public schools and the transportation/buses to and from. We pay no fees for school at all and there are no uniforms, book costs, etc. There is no school tax or millage rate/levy here for the schools, in our part of the US. We send a lunch daily or give them money to buy lunch every day.

How different is that, in general, compared to Polish public school?

Not sure on what all the company will provide and what we will have to pay for, as all the details of our posting haven't been ironed out yet.

In order for my husband, their employee, to negotiate those details with the company, we need to know the answers to the questions we have, first! Then he can go in and barter with them on better terms.

ie: if they pay housing (rent and furnishings) except for utilities and food, then of course paying for school isn't a problem; but if they only provide a vehicle, and help us locate a place (but we have to pay all housing alone) then we're in trouble as we wouldn't be able to pay for an expensive school.

I was told they will not help me get a work visa, so I cannot earn money while there; I will be at home with my son until next year when he goes to school, or till Fall, when he may go to preschool.

The private English and British language schools I see online in places like Germany seem to cost about $10,000 Euros per year and up ---with fees, tuition/books included in that--but sometimes daily transport/busing and of course, uniforms and meals, are extra.

Can someone help me figure this out or point me to a website that has Polish preschool, kindergarden and first grade school info in English?

Thank you!
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
10 Apr 2007 /  #26
A BIG QUESTION: if you are in Poland temporarily or as a guest worker (or your husband is) can your children even go to Polish public school at all? You are not permanent residents, right?

If you are working legally then 99.9% yes.

Public schools are for free, but they are not giving books or food.

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