"Ethnicity" form - Polish Europeans?

- More Scandinavia than Germany, right?
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If he said all that, he may be too much patriotic or ignorant. Nazi is a bit "extreme" :P



It was just an exampe, dunno if he actually said that ;) I like pizzas though, but i'm not a Nazi...a fascist maybe -Italian- ("Kelner ! Gimme a Mussolini Pepper, please")

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Thanks :) Hehe.

I think I know what covkid means by this.

As an island race we feel a little detatched from the whole european thing. We don't even use the Euro... I suppose in fairness neither do the Polish.

A lot of people in the UK if asked would say they are British first and foremost then European.

But hey that doesn't mean anything sinister... we all pay our taxes into the Euro pot.

As any other European countries, i guess. Ask a French, a German, an Italian, an Icelandic, A Swede, a Greek, etc. they would always put their "European" origin aside.

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I think the Angles were from what is now Denmark and northern Holland.....and the Saxons came from north eastern Germany......and as for the Scandinavians i don't think the Vikings penatrated much inland....they just settled along the coast.....but i may be wrong on that!

- Maybe for you it's 'extreme' (exactly why 'extreme'?), you're being French, and so more lberal towards them. For us, Poles, it isn't 'extreme,'but just right. And yes, Nazis are actually 'too much patriotic' and 'ignorant.'

Wow, so butburst the nazi has a defender in Polson.
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If you're talking about the British Isles then maybe yes they settled more along the coast, but in many places. They even "created" the city of Dublin (one among others). Norwegians settled more in the northern part of the British Isles, and particularly the isles such as Isle of Man, the Shetland and Orkney islands, while the Danes settled in the south of England.

- Of course, it doesn't mean they were Danish or Dutch; both nations didn't exist then, and God only knows who really lived there.


- So did Htler say he liked pizza or not?

You stated before he had said that. And now you're saying he didn't?

Oh boy.


- Perhaps that's why you're defending buttburst the nazi?
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Nazi describes (described) those who were antisemite, xenophobic, etc. That's why i find it a bit "extrem" when talking about one of our member :) I didn't say he wasn't, as i don't know him (we don't really know anyone here anyway), but i won't say inappropriate things about anyone.

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Hehe, i could be the defender of anyone who needs one actually :)


Read what i wrote again, you'll see that i said "IF Hitler has said..." :)


LoL no that was just the beginning of the Mussolini Pepper's joke.

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I'm hungry, i'm gonna have lunch, see ya guys ;)

- Maybe in your discriminatory polit-correct dictionary. In mine, Nazi also means extremely Polonophobic, amongst other things. And yes, buttburst is a xenophobic chauvinistic German and racist.


- Including a Nazi creep.
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And that's quite correct!

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Na ja...you Puzz are an outspoken Germanophobe...may I call you Nazi too?

Actually, it isn't as todays Germany does not fully overlap with where Germanic tribes lived at the time.

Btw, one of the meanings of the word Germany is anglicized Germania, i.e. area inhabited by Germanic tribes. Therefore, to say that someone came from Germany 1600 years ago is not an incorrect statement.

Further east...

Core of Europeans means that all Europeans stem from Poles which I find outrageous.Poles belong to Slavs,one big part of Europeans and they are for sure far less mixed than other Slavs like Russians or Ukrainians.

That Poles in Poland are less mixed with Blacks,Asians than western european nations is also true.That Poland is very homogenous with very few minorities and a lot more homogenous than western european countries is also true.(will you keep that?).

But not that ''Poles are the core of Europeans''.

That reminds alot about the crap Crow is sprouting all the time:

"Slavs are the real Europeans" with the Germanics only "so called" Westerners etc.

I wonder where he got that. Everybody knows that the Slavs wandered into Central Europe AFTER the Celts and AFTER the Germanics...

Not everybody knows that, but it's true. Except for the term "wandered into". They pushed Celtics and Germanic tribe westward.

Todays Europeans started out in western Ukraine, so it's rather an academioc question how Crow's statements about Slavs might be true.

There are genetically different people.Slavs have the haplogroup R1a,English,French,generally people near Atlantic coast have the haplogroup R1b while Germans,Austrians,Swiss,Scandinavians share the haplogroup I.

An interesting "Wanderkarte":

Good Wanderkarte but it does not say what happened after the 6th century when the Slavs appeared everywhere simultaneously.

How come the French are so different to the Germans?
They shared a long past and actually after Cäsar killed the old Gallier off the whole territory became mightily germanized...

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Caesar did not kill all the Galiens.He killed mainly the druids,some kings and some rebels.When the Wessigoths entered there,they mixed with local population.

"Wessigoths" :):):)

Oh those German "historians". We've known them since the times of Bismarck :))

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Is the map not correct?

How do you call them?Western Goths were pressed by Eastern Goths who were pressed by Hunes who came under pressure by Mongols.So everybody had to emigrate.

R1b is now claimed to be the haplotype of Celts,prominent in Ireland,England,Spain,France,Portugal.
Only DNA studies can provide solid evidence about origin,etc because you cannot guess how much was the mixture and what genes dominated in the population.

For example Normads invading England were very few arithmetically but their impact on english gene pool was enormous.On the contrary other invadors were dense in numbers but they were absorbed by the local population without leaving important genetical traits.(eg Mongols in Bulgaria).

I like the term actually...makes the others the "Ossigoths"! :)

Has someone found a map about the wandering Slavs???

It is correct but not complete.

West Slavs in 8th-9th century.

Polish tribes.

Polish tribes

Visigoths (or Wisigoths) and Ostrogoths ;)


My father comes from the northwest of France, in the area where the Normans settled. Do you think that if i "study" my DNA, i could know if i have Norman ancestors ? I've been wondering that for a while...

Not much wandering took place, really.
To paraphrase you-know-who, they came, they say the settled.
The matter of fact is that when Slavs came to what is now Poland, most of the area actually remained unclaimed as the Germanic types moved out so far west that Slavs lived on much of today's Eastern germany territory. They even aestablished a nice city there and called it Berlin :)