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Dear American Poles, look how much Brits make in Poland


Sadek 4 | 136  
22 Jan 2008 /  #1
have you noticed what kind of money English speaking Brits earn here. 60 PLN/hour = 24 $/h and it is after tax. Maybe you should consider coming back to Poland ... and become teacher ;-) here

look how much Brits make in the US

in Poland ... I am not form USA (topic has been changed by admin) hehe American admin I think ;-))))
miranda  
22 Jan 2008 /  #2
adm is sleeping today
OP Sadek 4 | 136  
22 Jan 2008 /  #3
I think the problem is different ... but I havent posted this thread to offend anybody just to inform about some posiblities ... If they speak English ... why not ?

BTW dear admin why dont you change name of this thread in to original ... this one is not true.
Admin 32 | 1,529   Administrator
22 Jan 2008 /  #4
in Poland ... I am not form USA (topic has been changed by admin) hehe American admin I think ;-))))

Why did you post it in the Polonia-USA section then?
OP Sadek 4 | 136  
22 Jan 2008 /  #5
because it was adressed to Polish Americans who (in my opinion) can be considered native English speakers in Poland. In my opinion it can be interesting expirience etc.
hello 22 | 891  
22 Jan 2008 /  #6
Life in Poland is much expensive than in the US - so $5 or so more won't make a difference. If it was more like $35-40 an hour it would be sensible. But then - who needs more teachers in Poland? Every second English-speaking foreigner to Poland hopes to find a job as a teacher. This could only make the salary lower in the long run. Not to mention that now you need to have a formal degree to be a teacher in Poland.
OP Sadek 4 | 136  
22 Jan 2008 /  #7
I don't licitate just posted nice option (in my opinion) Poland isn't USA ;) it is sure :-)

Life in Poland is much expensive than in the US

depends but lets leave it.

But then - who needs more teachers in Poland? Every second English-speaking foreigner to Poland hopes to find a job as a teacher.

rates are to high and competition would be nice ;) (form Polish point of view) but 60 PLN for one hour isn't anything special. I know a lot of people who pay more for private conversations. I think Brits form the forum don't know everything about the market ...

Honestly we need more English teachers and natives have job ... much better paid than other techers and nothing will change in nearest time.
plk123 8 | 4,150  
22 Jan 2008 /  #8
yeah, i am good here.. there just isn't enough room for me in PL.. i like my guns and cars.. i surely couldn't afford the gas over there.. living is way cheaper here then there anyway. and the ruskies are not next door.
OP Sadek 4 | 136  
22 Jan 2008 /  #9
heheh plk123 you are very characteristic :) (American Pole)

you want cold realtions with Russia, you want base in Poland and sharp games with "Russkies" etc. but asked about comin back to Poland answer is no ;) in USA " the ruskies are not next door" ^ ^ btw it is Joke
plk123 8 | 4,150  
22 Jan 2008 /  #10
heheh plk123 you are very characteristic

it's called 'taste of real freedom'. there is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting more and i want more... in PL i'd have to settle for less, i'm feeling. why would i uproot my pretty good way of living and move to PL and have to start over? what's the unemplyment numbers? why struggle if you don't have to? what's wrong with me wanting the missiles in PL? i think it's for the best.
OP Sadek 4 | 136  
23 Jan 2008 /  #11
24 $ per h is 24 $ per h (after tax) ... what is more as a English teacher ;-) work in every biger town ... I think it is ok.

what's the unemplyment numbers?

Warszawa 3% Poznan 2,5% Krakow 3% Wroclaw 4% ...

it's called 'taste of real freedom'

FOX TV ? ;-)
honestly I think that for 24$/h in Poland you have better standarts of living than in USA that is all, who will take oportunity will gain (this particular occupation) who prefere to work in USA for 15$/h will stay there. I just posted this thread to show sth.
dtaylor 9 | 823  
23 Jan 2008 /  #12
at the moment im making about 150pl an hour so wouldnt consider a move back to the uk. and on that wage life is just dandy.
kman67 2 | 79  
23 Jan 2008 /  #13
What is the tax structure like in Poland?

Let's say that a person makes 250,000 PLN per year gross. What does that person keep?

I totally agree that the quality of life is much better in Europe. Head and Shoulders over the US. I found that when I lived and worked in Europe, I had more time to do things and I wasn't rushing all over the place. The saying was that the Europeans worked to live, while the Americans lived to work. That was true and gave me a terrific attitude adjustment towards my future endeavors back here in the US.

However, with the 2 countries I have the most experience with (Denmark & Germany), it was tough to keep the money you earned.

In Denmark, people with that salary would pay an overall 65% income tax. VAT on what you purchased was 25%. If you bought a car, a car carried a 190% surcharge (after factoring in the cost of the car PLUS VAT), so it was hard to keep the money you earned. Social programs were great however. A University education was free. Health care was very good. Public transportation got you where you wanted to go at modest cost.

Just curious....
plk123 8 | 4,150  
23 Jan 2008 /  #14
Warszawa 3% Poznan 2,5% Krakow 3% Wroclaw 4% ...

as with all the official number they don't show reality on the ground.. unemployment is in double digits and pretty bad in some places.

and i really don't watch any TV and surely not the faux news, ok?

What is the tax structure like in Poland?

that's the other issue.. i sure don't want to have to navigate that bs.

and i am thinking a few are really fooling themselves if they think they can have beter life in PL then almost anywhere in the western world. i commend those who keep trying though. i am good with it.

i can tell you that the size of the house/yard i have here, the cars and all the other things, i could never have enough room or money to swing any of those. some people rush around, true.. i find that to be not my style so i take it easy. i know i would have less time in PL then i do here. guaranteed. life, overall is easier here then in PL. no way i would move back now.. retire? possibly but i am not going to sweat that as i have quite a bit of time before i do that. plus i am almost sure i'll cut my roots loose about then and go on checking out the world.
Dice 15 | 452  
23 Jan 2008 /  #15
Maybe you should consider coming back to Poland ... and become teacher ;-) here

No can do. My wife and kids don't speak Polish, we have jobs, schools, friends, family, oh yeah, don't forget the bills to pay:) and honestly $24/h is not that great, and how much is to buy or rent a house there, buy new cars, insurance, how about if you get sick - I wouldn't want to lend up in a Polish hospital... and what about the corruption, the bureaucracy. With all to you respect - I love Polish People and Poland, but they have a lot of problems there, there's got to be a reason for all those millions of people to leave the country to work for a minimum wage in GB.
plk123 8 | 4,150  
23 Jan 2008 /  #16
I love Polish People and Poland, but they have a lot of problems there, there's got to be a reason for all those millions of people to leave the country to work for a minimum wage in GB.

polophobia is strikiing i see. ;) :D

but i agree.. one can't see outside the box as long as they are in it.
OP Sadek 4 | 136  
23 Jan 2008 /  #17
I love Polish People and Poland, but they have a lot of problems there, there's got to be a reason for all those millions of people to leave the country to work for a minimum wage in GB.

do you consider yourself native English/american speakers ? I don't and I cant earn 150 PLN per hour 60$ per/h (because I know market) but lets say 25 $ in Poland ... hmmm life is confortable ... much better than for 25$ per hour in USA ... it is great opportunity and some Brits takes it and are satisfied I just posted propostion for American Poles who know English (native level) ... I am not telling to move with whole family but just go for half year contract and check it ;) ... you will stay ... all I want to say is that some of you can check it

what I want to add 60 PLN = 24$ per/h isn't great opportunity you will get it without any problems
Matyjasz 2 | 1,544  
23 Jan 2008 /  #18
but i agree.. one can't see outside the box as long as they are in it.

Unfortunately it goes both ways. One can't see what's in the box as long as he remains outside... I'm not going to fool you that life is better here than it is in the US, but it's not as bad as some would want it to be. Pozdrawiam.
Dice 15 | 452  
23 Jan 2008 /  #19
polophobia is strikiing i see. ;) :D

That's why I've said "With all to you respect - I love Polish People and Poland". I just didn't want to be misunderstood and change the subject of this thread to "where is the live better - Poland or the US".
dtaylor 9 | 823  
23 Jan 2008 /  #20
got to remember as a british person in poland you can claim alot of your tax back from uk. last year i claimed about 67%
kman67 2 | 79  
24 Jan 2008 /  #21
What is the tax structure like in Poland?

Hi All,

I am still curious about the tax rate structure in Poland. I wasn't knocking anyone in my original post. I just have a natural curiosity about taxes since I deal with them for a living.

I did some research, but it was at a very high level.

Here are 2006 Statistics:

Tax Base (PLN) Tax %
0 - 37,024 19%
37,025 - 74,048 30% of base exceeding PLN 37,024
74,049 and over 40% of base exceeding PLN 74,049

I also saw that Polish Social Security Taxes were 18.71%

I am assuming that you would deduct the social security to come up with the base (they did this in Denmark). I am also assuming that you go through a graduated rate. For example, if the taxable base was PLN 50,000 you pay 19% of 37,024 and then 30% of the difference between 50,000 and 37,024.

In my example of a 250,000 gross, is this how it would work in Poland?

Gross 250,000
Social Security -46,750

Taxable Base 203,250

Tax 19% -7,035
Tax 30% -11,107
Tax 40% -51,680

Net 133,428

Overall Tax Rate 53.37%

Any comments would be appreciated!

Cheers,

Kman
OP Sadek 4 | 136  
24 Jan 2008 /  #22
you can work as "company" and you pay 19% flat tax ... private school is company you are company and you get orders form school for your comany ;) and both sides are happy.

as to level of life I think that when you work as cashier in USA and in Poland you have absolutly better life in USA. When you work as Englis teacher in Poland and in USA you have better life in Poland.
hu_man 6 | 131  
24 Jan 2008 /  #23
you can work as "company" and you pay 19% flat tax

do you have to register company?
if so how much do you have to pay? if you dont mind
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893  
24 Jan 2008 /  #24
got to remember as a british person in poland you can claim alot of your tax back from uk. last year i claimed about 67%

Im not sure Im seeing how that works, you pay tax to the Polish gov and them claim it back from the UK ?
hu_man 6 | 131  
24 Jan 2008 /  #25
got to remember as a british person in poland you can claim alot of your tax back from uk. last year i claimed about 67%

i was thing the same .... i would love my tax back seeing as it feels like im being raped
scarbyirp  
24 Jan 2008 /  #26
I just found this data . . .

In 2008 the top personal income-tax rate is levied on earnings above 85,528 Polish zlotys (roughly 24,500 euro) per year and it amounts to 40%. The first 3,090 zlotys earned in the year are free of tax, while income exceeding this figure but lower than 44,490 zlotys is taxed at 19%. Yearly earnings in the bracket from 44,490 zlotys to 85,528 zlotys incur 30-percent tax.
kman67 2 | 79  
24 Jan 2008 /  #27
you can work as "company" and you pay 19% flat tax

Thanks Sadek. I saw that too in my research. The blurb I saw said "in certain circumstances" and I couldn't find what those certain circumstances were.

I just found this data . . .

And thank you, Scarbyirp! I was going in the right direction with my analysis then!

Cheers,

Kman
OP Sadek 4 | 136  
24 Jan 2008 /  #28
Thanks Sadek. I saw that too in my research. The blurb I saw said "in certain circumstances" and I couldn't find what those certain circumstances were.

do you have to register company?if so how much do you have to pay? if you dont mind

you have normal company you pay ZUS yourself but when you are selfemployed you can ask for more money form your "school" a lot of people do so and maybe it is less comfortable than being employed in normal way but you have more money and freedom.

I am not sure how it looks in schools but so many people work in this way that schools shouldn't be problem (private schools) and it isn't any kind of "dark" business just reallity ;) there are some regulations and you should to ask lawer about it.

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