My personal (Polish) view on USA.

We in the USA certainly do have our social problems. But I believe that in the recent past there was a thread discribing the many drunken Polish men one can find on a regular basis in most any Polish city. We have our drunks also, but they certainly are not the norm.

In the USA our Constitution guarantees us under our Bill of Rights and the Second amendment "A well regulated Malitia, being necessary to the security of a free State,

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the right of the people to keep and bear arms,

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shall not be infringed."This Right has NOTHING to do with hunting or target shooting. It is every law abiding man's right to protect himself, his family and our nation.

Our government basically trusts it's citizens to own firearms. It's what keeps us free. The Czar never understood such a thought. Hitler was against any such idea. Stalin would never allow any Pole to own a gun for self defense. (Ask your parents and grand parents.)

Do you think the Gremans would have been so successful in 1939 if every Pole owned a rifle? My guess is that there would have been one hell of a lot of dead german soldiers buried on Polish soil. Poles are known for their bravery. But, even a brave man is lost without a weapon.

Remember Budapest, Hungrary in 1956? Too soon we forget what a few brave men with simple firearms can do. Would the Russians even have attempted such an invasion if every Hungarian man owned a rifle?

Years ago I worked with a fellow who survived the German death camps. He told me that every free man should possess 3 things: A passport, Gold, and a Gun.

He was very wise indeed!

We may not be a perfect society, but we are a free society and have been since 1776. There are very few countries who can say that. Can you?

I rather live in a less free society and not have the possibility of having my neighbour shoot at me, when he/she looses her/his temper.

So much for this kind of freedom:)

This is why we have a choice of where we want to live. We don't have any shootings or deaths from guns. This is the case where you'd want to avoid living in states where carrying a weapon is legal and can be used if you feel like you're in harms way. The weird thing is that in these states, there are less murders by guns because you never know who's carrying so no one really messes with each other. VT for example. Very "free" state. Hardly any crime. NY? Pfff...do I


LOL...not uncommon in Canada to see pickup truck with an umbrella in the gun rack :)

Crazy Horse, do you not agree that the rules for gun ownership in some states are too relaxed. And that some people should never be allowed near a firearm.

do you???? What if some people don't have a choice.[quote=FISZ]
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The weird thing is that in these states, there are less murders by guns because you never know who's carrying so no one really messes with each other. [/quote

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exactly, so I presume that people live in fear, not in comfort. Correct me if I wrong. I would be living in fear if I knew that I could be shot:). Doesn't that defeat the purpose of having guns in general? So I would know that you have one but I am not sure, so I would carry one but I am not going to use it against you at any time, becaue you can shoot me with yours???? I am having a huge problem with relating to this kind of scenary:)

This is crap talk. I have seen what weekend means for many people in USA. And it is not alcohol only but drugs too. Every Saturday potential drunk killers driving around American cities (as seen on “COPS” – LOL). But back to the point. The worst is that USA has huge military power, army, aircraft carriers, submarines, and yet you can’t protect your kids in school. Or your family from your neighbors because everybody has guns. What are you afraid of? English King is dead by now and Boston Party is over. I think it is time to start public debate in USA about guns in your lives, because you are addicted.

Everyone has and makes their own choices in life. Being poor myself, I was able to make the necessary moves to an area that I liked and had plenty of employment opportunities. I don't feel bad because I've lost everything in life already (house fire) and snapped back. Anything is possible if you have the motivation.


No. It isn't a state of fear...you just don't think about it at all. Look up Vermont...people there don't live in fear at all. They just enjoy life. Don't let the news and TV scare ya. I won't say there isn't a problem, but we don't live in fear as you may suggest.


I see, but it's ok. You may not understand because we've always lived like this.


See what TV does for people that just don't know? I never did drugs or anyone that I associate with.... I cannot believe you mentioned COPS ...lol what a crap show....you got it..that's America :)


And what country are you from? No drunk drivers? LOL I hope you don't say Poland.....


Nada :)


What am I addicted to? I didn't know you knew me.
Maybe Ice Cream? Ring Dings? Caramel? Cookies?
I may be addicted to a few....guns? I'm no redneck my friend, but I do like to fish :)

sure, thank you for the explanation:)

There are some TV programms from the USA, but I am immune to them (I hope), Thank God gor PBS:)

I always catch Nova on PBS :) Good stuff :)

I will. It's always nice to get a balanced opinion from you Fisz:)


yes...lol


sorry to hear that and I am glad that you have such a positive attitude:)

M, also understand that I really do dislike a lot of things that go on here, but everyone can't constantly focus on all of the negativity and what if's. I find it more exciting to live life to the fullest. Let people believe what they want. It's really not all that bad here if you just live to have fun.

there is no country that is perfect, including Canada, Poland and others. But I like most of the things here too, although I am aware of some problems.

I find that if I feel positive, my outlook on life is much brighter. However, I am still realistic.
I agree with you. It's good to concentrate of positive things. When I get overwhelemd at times, I just concentrate on reality and honestly - I really have a great time:)

off topice Daf:)

True - er will mod soon enough ;)

Let me say this, an armed society is a polite society. Crime is not exclusive to any one country or nationality. I'm sure there are areas of Warsaw that are not safe to walk through in the night.

There should be no reason why someone who is screened properly cannot own or even carry (for protection) a firearm. What do you have to fear from an honest, law abiding person?

In cities such as New York and Washington D.C. where the gun laws are

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very restrictive the crime rate is out of hand. As someone else said of Vermont, the crime rate is low. Why? Because the fellow you might want to rob and assault just may have a pistol in his or her pocket. The criminal in N.Y. and Wash. D.C.doesn't have to worry. No one is armed and he can have his way.

How long was it before the Germans made an all out assault with artilary and fighter planes on the WarsaW ghetto? The mighty Germans were afraid of a few poorly armed Jews. Just for a minute imagine how things might have been different if those brave Polish Jews would have had many firearms? Imagine that, the bad guys afraid of a few Jews. Only because they had firearms to protect themselves.

It's not the gun that kills but rather the one holding the gun.

As for living in a "less free society" well, you have lived in a less free society! Would you wish to return to those days? I think not.

I'm a free man, in a free country. I will die a free man in a free country because I have a RIGHT to own a firearm that the Constitution (Law) says "Shall not be infringed." I hope that you people of Poland , my grand father's country, will someday be able to say and believe the same.

this is not what I was saying. I was talking Canada and referring especifically to guns.

Poland is free now and even if I wanted, it could not be reversed.

As for living in a communist country, I had experianced it and wasn't easy, however it wasn't jail.

has anyone else noticed the appauling driving in america...?

gotta put this down to loads of fat lazy mofos sitting in oversized cars with power steering and automatic gearing... when life is that easy why bother concentrating on whats goin on around you...?

Bubba!

Glad to see that the woo has landed. Hope all's going well? Enjoy the freeway lottery and don't forget Honk if you love jesus! :)

Noticed it? We live with it.


No, bubba, don't honk. Nowadays you'll get shot. And bubba, if you see someone who doesn't have their headlights on, don't do anything. It's a trick. They'll shoot you if you warn them.

dont make those loads of fat mofos mad at ya, they might follow ya and sit on you
then you wont make it back , but we can change your name bubba to
not bubba road trip

to bubbaflatcakes... lol
Bubba, I cant believe you came to America.. I am amazed..

well, have fun, and watch out for little old ladies from pasadena.. :)

Sound advice... particularly if they are driving Ferraris or Zondas.

Nah BubbaRoadKill surely. Much more fitting :) Not that we want that to happen. Keep on trucking BW.

crazywhores, you make some good points.

I don't agree with all out freedom, nor with all out banning.

I think the world has changed a lot, since that consitution was penned, and America is both WorldPolice and PublicEnemy No.1 at the same time.

Its unlikely that America would be invaded nowadays but that could all change in the next 5 years for all we know.
I don't expect war in Europe but its possible.
Some crazy Pole may invade Germany to get revenge for the humiliation of WW2, in much the same way the Germans did for the treaty of versailles after WW1.

sure, I am not trying to take it away from you.
Just don't impose your views so strongly on other people. If you were so convinced the the american way is the only way, then your posts souldn't be so defensive.

I am getting a feeling that you are trying to defend a system which you no longer believe in.


well, I am looking forward Bubba's comments on his american experiance.

I agree with free, but as far as rights , unfortunately those who own guns also abuse
their rights but waving it around to show power, unfortunately its those people which
make this issue come to light by doing harm to someone and saying " I didnt mean
it". freedom is given to each of us and of course, those who act like nimb-com-poops
(someone help me on that one) do not deserve their right to freedom if they think
a weapon is something you use to scare people, or power.. which I have seen.

not to mention the children whom are young and obviously this is a growing problem
that they somehow get ahold of these weapons/firearms and the next thing you know
their heads blown off.. <~no its not unfortunate, its idiotic and its a huge problem
that needs attention,.. so I say those who own guns and do not lock them up
properly and a young child gets a hold of them, deserve jail , if you own a garage
or another place where these can be stored, theres no reasons why a young child
could get ahold of these.. how it happens is anybodys guess, but careless actions
speak loud words.

No firearms in my home, nor will their ever be. if someone enters my home, he better
be prepared for a good whacking! and a dog attacking.. thats my protection.

Certainly I'm not saying that the American way is the only way or the best way. I should mention that there were a couple of Polish heros who helped us alon our way. And we are greatful for their contribution.

Owning a firearm goes along with responsibility. There are those who abuse that responsibility. I'm sure you've seen people who abuse wisky and those who abuse driving their cars. Those also require responsibility. The world is not perfect. People are not perfect. For the most part people in America who own guns are very responsible people.America is not the wild west that some might wish to portray.

I think America took on the duty of Policing because there was/is no one else to do it. Do we do it all over the world equally? NO. It's imposible to do that. Are we fair. Not as fair as we would like to be. We try. Who else among the world community tries? We could do better and we will always try.

I don't have to defend my country here with words. I have defended it with weapons against the communists in the past and lived to tell of it.

All I can say is that the world is a better place because of America and Americans.

I agree with you on this

you don't believe it this statement yourself, so you?


I wonder what that means?


I don't really know what that means. The foreign policy of the USA is not very popular to say the least. I think that imposing the american way of being on other countries and nationalities usually with military force and trying to implement the american "democracy" is just arrogant.

Miranda, I think what he means is, and not thinking down the lines of what you said
that he is proud to be american, more so for his patriotic views, and not because
of the foreign policy.

I agree with you on the democracy, we have it dont mean everyone has to have it
so leave those who like their country the way it is.. its worked thus far, so why
change it? if they want to change, hey then consult America the king of democracy :)

lol, only way to put it..

I agree with you on most of those points except for the democracy bit.

Unfortunately the threat to democracy in the USA is far larger than what people realise at the moment. Every consecutive president brings in a progressively more autocratic system and the mainstream are gradually becoming more conservative.

I believe the truest representation of democracy today exists in the EU.

The UK also took on the challenge of world police long before the US, as did the French, however this was done in the name of Empire and Imperial power.

One of the redeeming features of US global power is that they do not require an untermensch in the same way that other Empires did.

One thing is sure. The world would have been fcuked if the US weren't involved in the last century.

Right on. We have some of the worst drivers, but our roads are bigger :) I didn't know you were in America. Most of these SUV's are driven by little women racing to get to the mall.

Where in the US is the woo?