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Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
3 Mar 2007 /  #1
Where can you make better money ? In UK or Ireland ?
Frank 23 | 1,183  
3 Mar 2007 /  #2
G...if you are doctor who can cover a weekend shift in inner London as a GP out of hours provider ....for a 8 hour shift you can make up to £1200......ie 5.7 zlts to the GB = 6840zlts....:)

Other end of the scale....some pps are working for 3 euros an hour...:(
telefonitika  
3 Mar 2007 /  #3
Where can you make better money ? In UK or Ireland ?

For the UK and taken from the Inland Revenue and Customs website:

There are three levels of minimum wage, and the rates from 1st October 2006 are:

£5.35 per hour(30.72zł) for workers aged 22 years and older

A development rate of £4.45 per hour(25.55zł) for workers aged 18-21 inclusive

£3.30 per hour(18.95zł) for all workers under the age of 18, who are no longer of compulsory school age.

For Ireland taken from eirjobs.com/news/2006/12/20/minumum-wage-set-to-increase-in-2007

Table of Minimum Wages for Ireland 2007 per hour
Age As of Jan 1st 2007 As of July 1st 2007

Under 18 €5.81 (22.65zł) €6.06 (23.62zł)

Over 18 in first year of employment
€6.64 (25.88zł) €6.92 (26.97zł)

over 18 in second year of employment
€7.47 (29.12zł) €7.79 (30.36zł)

Hope that helps :)
OP Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
3 Mar 2007 /  #4
Thanks Tele, but are these brutto or netto ?
Frank 23 | 1,183  
3 Mar 2007 /  #5
Brutto...but as you've seen G...not all employers honour these rates.........
telefonitika  
3 Mar 2007 /  #6
Greg ... all employers SHOULD by law honour the national minimum wage set out if you however find that when you start work in either the UK or Ireland and you arent getting the national minimum wage that you are entitled to seek advice from the Citizen Advice Bureau .... but it is law that what is stated should be paid ... i get the national minimum wage of £5.35 an hour in the job i am doing :)

All the wages i have stated above are per hour hun and i used XE convertor to show what each hours pay would be in polish złoty.

Hope it helps you :)
OP Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
4 Mar 2007 /  #7
Hope it helps you

Thanks, but how much of that you really get ? And what's the average wage and how much (more or less) in relation to minimum/average gets a qualified worker, let's say a bus driver or a lower rank office worker ? Now It's Frank's turn...
Frank 23 | 1,183  
4 Mar 2007 /  #8
The amount quoted by T is then taxed, (so in hand getting 4.00 an hour), .......none on the first 4-5 thousand, then a proportion at 10%, then most of the rest up to 36K @30%....for a lowly office worker...getting 8-12 K depending on experience, quals etc....but in city, good p.a.s earn a lot more!
telefonitika  
4 Mar 2007 /  #9
but how much of that you really get ?

I get all the money i dont get taxed as i dont earn enough in my part time job to qualify on tax ... but on monthly pay of say approx 37.5 hours a week in average job (so 150 hours a month) ... at £5.35 per hour = £200.62 x 4 = £802.50 so you would pay approx 22% tax on your earnings a month so i think you would pay just under £50 a month in tax then you have National Insurance to pay which is about £20-£25 or less a month so you will have a monthly average wage of approx £700 take home pay.
Bartolome 2 | 1,085  
4 Mar 2007 /  #10
In addition, there's certain sum tax-free = about £5000. All you earn above that is taxed.

Bus driver (working with First) earns £6.30 ph during training, £7.50 for the first year and £9.30 afterwards.
Annia  
4 Mar 2007 /  #11
listentotaxman.com

Ths is a good site and will give you the details you want, regarding deductions.
OP Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
4 Mar 2007 /  #12
for a lowly office worker...getting 8-12 K

A year ???

so you will have a monthly average wage of approx £700 take home pay.

Ewww :(

And thanks for your help to all :)
Annia  
4 Mar 2007 /  #13
Take in to consideration where you will live, the south of England is pricer than the north.

Good luck :)
telefonitika  
4 Mar 2007 /  #14
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Quoting: Frank
for a lowly office worker...getting 8-12 K

A year ???

is part time to full time earning but thesouth of theUK like London downwards is considerably higher to live and hence wages are higher to compensate thefact you pay more to live in these areas ... some office jobs dependant range between 12k-17k with thebonuses up here in theNorth .... so bear this in mind.

On average in a full time job i was previously doing i was taking home between £700-£850 a month after deductions of tax and NI. Which is satisfactory for me and thefact thecost of living here in thenorth is considerably less expensive than that of thesouth.

Also greg you may need to slightly lower your standards in job searching as it has taken my good friend a few months to find work (polish) and like them there are certain jobs i will not do but if it came to it i would go there and do them ... as it is a job at end of day and bringing in a wage.

I am probably going to have thesame problem looking for work in Poland when i relocate there within next 12-18months :) as i am wanting to go into Administration sector.
OP Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
4 Mar 2007 /  #15
But there must be some way to make better money, what about construction sector ? Or people operating things like this one ?

and the fact the cost of living here in the north is considerably less expensive than that of the south.

What's the cost of living for one person ? Usual things, without luxury, but not only bread and water.

I am probably going to have the same problem looking for work in Poland when i relocate there within next 12-18months as i am wanting to go into Administration sector.

Think about teaching English, seriously, otherwise It may be hard.
Annia  
4 Mar 2007 /  #16
Grzegorz, you'll have to look around find something to tide you over and then look for something with better money, there are 750000 Polish in England so competition for jobs is hard.

As for stacker trucks, I have no idea what the money is like.

What's the cost of living for one person ? Usual things, without luxury, but not only bread and water.

Rent - anything from £35.00 per week in a shared house
Gas / Elec / Water Rates/ Council /Tax - £25 per week (shared house
Food - £25.00 per week (basics - pasta, potatoes, vegies, milk, bread)
Travel - depends on where have to travel too - most people (I think) get weekly passes - £15 - £30 per week

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Lee_England 4 | 51  
4 Mar 2007 /  #17
Forklift drivers get around £7 to £10 per hour. It depends where abouts you live. The reason they get more is because driving a forklift is a skill (and you need a license)

If your looking to work in the building trade its probably better to learn a trade such as plastering, plumbing or carpentry. You can easily get £100 a day as a plasterer or a carpenter, and that's cheap. Plumbers get even more.

Odd job (i.e. unskilled) workers are the ones who get paid £50 cash per day or minimum wage. You don't want to be taken advantage of like that. So learn a trade.

The minimum wage sucks, you can earn more being on the dole. This is the reason why the English don't want to do the menial jobs, because they don't pay enough.
telefonitika  
4 Mar 2007 /  #18
What's the cost of living for one person ?

well i live on my own with my 9yr old ... so i have the rent to pay £370 a month and then council tax of £72 a month (because i am on low earning as i am only part time employed at the minute soon to change to full time i currently get housing and council tax benefit to help towards this)

then i have the food shopping on average £100-£150 a month ... water rates £55 a month ... tv license £8.75 a week ... but then on top of that i have the monthly subscriptions of digital tv/broadband and landline phone rental too.

So it differs everywhere .... i guess living in a shared house with other polish people would work out in your favour and at least you would have nearly most of your wages a month :)
OP Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
4 Mar 2007 /  #19
Thank you all once again :)
peterweg 37 | 2,321  
4 Mar 2007 /  #20
Looking in a London Polish magazine (Cooltura) london rent seems to be £60-70 average. Presumably shared.

The minimum wage sucks, you can earn more being on the dole. This is the reason why the English don't want to do the menial jobs, because they don't pay enough.

A friend I know lost her job as doctor (consultant). Council are going to pay her £1900 month rent in Chelsea. Gone from £70K a year to £56 jobseekers allowance.
sapphire 22 | 1,241  
12 Apr 2007 /  #21
london rent seems to be £60-70 average

per week? that would most likely be sharing a room, not just a flat. An average rent for a small room in a house share in a cheaper area of London is around £300-350 pcm.. I do know Polish people who pay less but they generally live 2 to 3 per room..and of course you do get what you pay for.

As for people working for less than the minimum wage.. the reason that they accept this is that these jobs are often cash in hand, which means they avoid paying tax and can often end up with more per week than with a legal job. Truthfully I dont know many Polish people in London who do pay tax, well not regularly anyway. My partner couldnt believe it when I showed him how much tax and National Insurance I paid per month. The benefits of working legally are that you will be entitled to benefits should you fall out of work etc.........
Giles  
12 Apr 2007 /  #22
Also beware there is no 35 hour week in the UK. Most companies make you sign a clause stating that you will work whatever they need and that you are willing to work more than 35 hrs a week. If you don't sign, they just don't employ you!

Of the Polish lads I know here who are working in the construction /painter/decorator field. Most work cash in hand for between £50 and £100 a day, this is great, but obviously the work is not always there.

My friends that work in security tend to earn around £8 to £12 an hour after tax.
But most of us work long hours. The average week is 60 hours, and often they are unsocial hours.

Recently bless him a Brazillian friend of mine was working at a very exclusive shop, 6 days a week from 7 am to 10 pm, he did this for around 6 weeks, whilst the shop was opening up. So that was 90 hrs a week. However for that he was earning around £700 a week. He only agree to it because his (Polish) girlfriend was pregnant and they needed the cash, however, £4000 plus in 6 weeks for basic security work is not bad at all. Except for the fact his poor pregnant girlfriend managed to **** up massively through trying to sublet a flat and end up losing £2000 in deposit. Poor bastard I felt really sorry for him. but hey that life.

Most of the Polish lads in the security game in London, earn between £350 and £550 a week, in hand. Not bad if you think what an average monthly wage in Poland is.
1st generation  
12 Apr 2007 /  #23
Could you please tell me these prices in dollars? Also, what is the council tax. Is it like the US' property tax?

I can give you some average prices in the US (Midwest, not Chicago)

Rent: $700.00-800.00 (2-3 bedroom, 1,000 sq. ft)
Minimum Wage: $7.00 per hour

Property Tax on Houses: my city: $29.00 per $1,000 of assessed value: Our tax per year on our house (worth $170,000) is about $3,200 (give or take credits)

Average new house in the suburbs: $200,000-350,000 (Average tax $5,000-8,000 per year) The property taxes pay for schools, roads and government services.

Health insurance taken out of payroll check ($200.00 plus $20.00 for dental insurance every month)
The health insurance plan is a basic 90/10 plan. The insurance pays 90% and we pay 10%. If your one day ER bill is $5,000, you pay $500.00 up to $3,000. Then the insurance covers 100% If you don't have insurance and don't qualify for government insurance (Title 19), then you pay 100% of the hospital bill.

Beginning public school teacher salary: $27,000
Average teacher salary $50,000
Doctorate teaching degree only $1,000 more

Beginning Engineering salary: $50,000
Beginning General MD salary: $100.00
Beginning RN or 4yr. nursing degree: $20.00- 30.00 per hour(8 hr- 12 hr. work week)
Technician (2 yr. degree) $20.00-22.00 per hour

I would like to know how Europe compares. Thank you.
sapphire 22 | 1,241  
16 Apr 2007 /  #24
you can work on an average of 2 US Dollars to £, its slightly less than this, but that will make it easier.. so if you just double the sterling figures you should get an apx. dollar equivalent. I dont know about US property tax, but council tax is payable by everyone in the UK (exceptions are students, OAPS etc.) regardless of whether you are a homeownder or not and the amount payable per year (normally paid every month) is dependant upon the size and location of your property. In London for example, the council tax varies depending upon which borough you live in. The money you pay is supposed to pay for things like rubbish collection, maintenance of streets, parks, etc. etc............... I agree about prices for construction/decorating work if you get paid an hourly rate... however if you have some experience and can find your own jobs you can fix your own price and can make decent money.. although this is all down to contacts so you need to set up your own business and make some contacts first.
dannyboy 18 | 248  
4 May 2007 /  #25
From a skilled professional perspective, without question its London, especially if your a contractor, self employed.

In any type of employment, you can make more money in London than most other parts of the world. Also, you have subways and good public transport in London, so you do not need to own a car.

There are however some major trade offs, for these reasons I would avoid London unless I were a contractor.

If your talking about low skill jobs such as retail etc., I would choose Ireland as the cost of living is probably equal but you avoid some of the more ****** cramped conditions of the UK
OP Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
4 May 2007 /  #26
Most of the Polish lads in the security game in London, earn between £350 and £550 a week, in hand.

What kind of qualifications are need for these jobs ?

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