Unemployed due to Polish who work in the UK

No employer gets rid of good worker! Skillful and bright employee is vital for every manager. Was your work sound enough?

thankyou espana, for your input, and to all of you, except UKinpoland (who just seems to be nothing but abusive and unhelpful)
I agree with all of you in certain ways and it has been very interesting to hear your views.

Diddums.


Lol nah thats not really my cup of tea.

this thread reminded me of good old freddy! where is she?

good luck in the future, hope you find a better job soon....
i know you can if you put your mind to it!!!!!!!!

Thank you v. much Mr. S my friends family have an apartment on the Mijas Costa and they have spanish neighbours and also, when they have work done they employ Spanish guys to do the work - local labour!


You wish, damn have you got over being mugged yet of your bus fair:)


You are behind the times, the Spanish and the English get on quite well

pardon me?

Dont get personal and I wont

I really appreciate that you respect Poland and Polish people but why, please explain, why you don't show any respect to your own country and your people?

This is what your previous statement mean? because I didnt get it at all.

Read what you said and read your quote.

eh?...

so you feel that it's a good thing that English people are out of work?

That was the reason for my response.

it would be very sad if she really means that.

Where... ? Isn't unemployment rate in UK something like 4.7% ?

Unfortunately, the UK economy is now based on skills and knowledge in the workforce as we are no longer a manufacturing country. I know how this happens as I have spent my working life in engineering and watched it all slipping away overseas. My farming friends who used to grow milling weat and produce milk, have switched to document storage and oil seed crops and make less money than they did 20 years ago.

Survival is a matter of changing to suit a changing society and while there is truth in the old saying "where there's muck there's brass", it is better to be a certified electrician or a registered gas fitter - the necessary certification excludes immigrants.

It tough, I've been unemployed, but you learn to diversify and gain a skill that is hard to duplicate.
Good luck and best wishes.

Very interesting post that got me thinking, it would indeed be boring if we all spoke the same. Not so sure how easy it is to "lose" an accent, I know of many people who have been in the UK 50+ years and still have a "twang":-) Although I know of a few Danish and Dutch sportsmen that have plied their trade in the UK that are "indetectable" by their accent the vast majority of those speaking English as a second language have an accent of some kind.

In my eyes, the goal when I speak another language is to make myself understood in every situation, I can work on the accent later;-)

Will you stop posting stupid threads like this, it opens us up for obvious attacks by some people here!.... or is that what you want?....I don't think most people in the UK are like you!!......If you have lost your job then go and do what most Brits would do and get another!!

Nice to see you have a softer side.

I'm sorry that you lost your job. The British government should place some
restrictions to protect its own people against foreigners (Polish or otherwise). Hopefully you'll
be able to get some sort of a social security and maybe use the spare
time to upgrade your skills to get a much better job or maybe get your old job back. Hope things work out!

If I were you, I'd be glad it was a Pole taking my job than a Mexican like here in the U.S. At least Poles speak English and are Western and legitimately Christian in their beliefs. Think about it-you have more culturally in common with a Pole than you ever would with a Mexican who can't and many who won't speak English. Be glad you don't have those people....

Yes, but then there is no competition because you are working for very little money and are not taking away a Polish person's job.

If there wasnt a native speaker here then clearly a Polish person would be working in this job. Do you understand?

I think that it is about competition. A long time ago there were very few Polish in England. Fifteen years ago if we saw a Polish car, we would turn round and follow it and when we could, we would invite them to our house for tea-it was that rare to see Polish in England. Now, fifteen years on and 600,000 later, it is a different story. When I do my shopping we do it in silence as we do not want to advertise our 'polishness'. Cheap labour is a good thing in the short turn but Poland is the looser as they are loosing the talented young and the British get a raw deal as labour rates are low, sick pay and holiday entitlements are non existent. It is the rich capitalists who benefit as they have a pool of cheap maluable labour. England has always survived on a combination of cheap low skilled workers, not high tech as in Germany.

Our ? Don't flatter yourself little man.

I bet I am bigger than you!

Clever clever michal. You quote this from Polish pete and then answer the question. I thought you said that you are English?

Its got nothing to do with natural selection, how ignorant of you ! Its called SCAB LABOUR, where selfish (or perhaps desperate)people go and do work for sh1t wages and put the original workers out of a job. If it were 'natural selection' then you would get the job with the same good wages by being a 'better' worker NOT by being a scab and selling your ass cheaply.

THe same thing has happened in ireland. Foreign workers have undermined many of the hard won rights of irish workers and trade unions (especially in the building trade) by agreeing to work for sh1t wages. Irish labourers were getting 13.50 an hour, basic wage, until polish workers came on the sites and agreed to work for 9 euros(with no overtime rate!). I have a polish friend who went to work on a site and was told this was the new rate. He took the job but within a month he and other polish workers lost their jobs to Latvian workers who agreed to work for 7 euros an hour.

Polish traditionaly place great value on their trade unions and back in the days Soladar was supported by unions all over europe including ireland. Yet when they and other foreign workers came to ireland they ignored the trade unions and standard rates of pay and settled for bad wages. This has undermined the power of the trade unions to protect both foreign and irish workers from exploitation.

I dont blame the foreign workers completely though, more the employers who are greedy scum, and sometimes people just need a job and money right now, but it seems that foreign workers were comparing wage rates in both countries instead of the cost of living. Rather than come to this country and get a better wage and standard of living, they have in many ways, brought it down for both themsleves and the native workers. No offence intended but thats whats happened.

On another note, i dont think its so bad that we can buy Polish food in the shops, they've got some very good food and often healthier than alot of the cr4p on the shelves in Tescos etc,.

nearly a million poles in uk i dont call that a small percentage

Yes, and they do. Anybody can teach English in Poland.