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Reporting Illegal polish workers in UK to Hm customs

12 Dec 2006 /  #1
ok fellas, I know you shoudlnt post such threads but want to know the punishment for having an illegal job along with illegal flat. whats the punishment?, paying no tatx, paid cash in hand and sharing the rent between 4 ppl with each paying 35 quid each no contract no paper work ect.
12 Dec 2006 /  #2
Why do you ask here, is this the Lawyers R Us website?

It would depend on the country, and what is an illegal job, do you mean say being an murderer for hire and reward? What is an illegal flat? Usualy it is the landlord who is responsible for a flat, the tenant being responsible for the rent- if the flat became ‘illegal’ then it would be the Landlord’s responsibility.

Tax evasion is treated seriously, I have a friend serving 7 years after being fined £332,0000, HE WAS EMPLOYING PEOPLE CASH IN HAND.

Try looking here

Your local council can advise on 'illegal flats' I'm sure
OP manser  
12 Dec 2006 /  #3
Im asking because I reported 4 polish ppl to customs for working illegally and yes living illegally too. Fine, they would be out of work and a flat by the looks of things. Im waiting to hear back from customs, yet to provide a witness statemnet.

Sorry to hear about your friend. I never grass but this is an exception for certain reasons.

I tried that website but to no avail.

I reported it about 3 weeks ago and heard nothing yet but they ddi say it will take a while since other cases will be before mine.
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
12 Dec 2006 /  #4
explain who they were hurting manser... and how...
OP manser  
12 Dec 2006 /  #5
working illegaly in factory, paid cash in hand, live in flat, have NO residential permit, tax ecasion basically ect. thats their stats so far.

Hurting the tax system. My reporting is perfectly legal

share rent between 4 of them. 35 each per week. some dodgy changes to the falt itself. the guy must have changed a living room into a bathroom.......maybe illegal changes to a hosue withotu lcoal authrites eprmission too on the list. but more interested in the punishment for the 4 polish people. 3 males 1 female.
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
12 Dec 2006 /  #6
My reporting is perfectly legal

i dont think anyone would deny that what you have done is legal... but it sounds as tho there is more to it than that
OP manser  
12 Dec 2006 /  #7
They can live and work here legally and they have EU passports, well ID card but they chose to do the oppsoite. alonmg with no residential permit which u must have after 3 months i believe.
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
12 Dec 2006 /  #8
there is more to it than you are saying... what did they do to piss you off...?
OP manser  
12 Dec 2006 /  #9
Oh there is oviously as your gut reaction tells you but im with-holding that information.

the HM customs wont care how I feel and why i reported it, their more interested in seeing things as black and white. like the wya they do things in court.

cause and effect.

long story anyway and not interested in repeating it all. to personal. Main thing is their breaking the law and im not.

I gave names, mobile numbers and the address to the flat, along with my detaisl too an the *story* which was all true on my behalf. Never lie ebcause it come sback at you in the end. Im just waiting to hear a reply from them. been at the most 3 weeks.
12 Dec 2006 /  #10
The only way I can imagine that a Polish worker can in anyway be an illegal worker in the uk is if they haven’t applied for the Workers Registration Scheme, however that isn’t their crime as it is the employer not the employee who is responsible to ensure conformance.

So you grassed up the employer, they will be fined, and serves them right.
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
12 Dec 2006 /  #11
Oh there is oviously as your gut reaction tells you but im with-holding that information.

fair dinkums... but from where i am standing you sound like someone who has a grudge... ok... so these guys were breaking some rules... so what... what are they really doing other than trying to get by...

until you explain yourself it looks as tho you are the wrong do-er here... so what if they are sharing the rent between them... havent registered for residents permits... made changes to their house... are getting paid cash in hand... they arent murdering people, having sex with small children or plotting revolution...
OP manser  
12 Dec 2006 /  #12
and the illegal workers will be out of a job, and the customs will check the workers up to they wont stop at that.

if they do their job stheir check residential permits too. up to them though.

You should be angry too, you pay taxes dont you so why should othe rppl get away with it

still illegal bubba
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
12 Dec 2006 /  #13
what... and you never broke the law...?
12 Dec 2006 /  #14
You don’t need a residency permit if you are Polish and wish to live or work in the UK
OP manser  
12 Dec 2006 /  #15
yes I have and i got a first caution for it, u know what I did, i kicked the crap out of the guy who tried to attack me back in school, along with thrwiing a brick through his front room window while his aprents were watching tv at the time lol. i was 18 then, yes doing a-levels in sxith form.

other than that no and that was justice and i still dont regret doing it.

Yes you do welsh, check the british embassy or poliosh embassy fi you want.

Same gos for me if i want to live and work in poalnd too. i know for a fact becasue i phoned the polish embassy msyelf.

im 20 now and going 21 in january 31st.
12 Dec 2006 /  #16
All that will happen is that the company that employed them, and the landlord who rented them the flat might end up in court. The Poles may find they have to pay tax on their earnings, but that is all- but as they have no payslips it’ll take a while for the Revenue and Customs to come up with a figure for the missed tax, probably about 3 years.

The criminals here aren’t the Polish workers but their employer and landlord.
OP manser  
12 Dec 2006 /  #17
main thing is their be out of a job and roof over their heads. I wouldnt report good ppl to HM customs, im not that twisted or evil.

so dont paint a picture of em just yet.

and i would be happy with that result.

The poles are clearly aware that they are working illegally. im making sure they pay for it.
12 Dec 2006 /  #18
Yes you do welsh, check the british embassy or poliosh embassy fi you want.

PLEASE READ atus/european_citizens.html
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
12 Dec 2006 /  #19
you were lucky to get just a caution manser... kicking the crap out of someone is not on... naughty... gbh... you hurt somebody... even if he was a wanker...

leave these guys alone... they are just trying to get by... i dont want to be patronising but when you are a little older you might understand how difficult it can be just to get by... getting paid cash in hand aint no big deal... living four to a flat aint no bid deal...
OP manser  
12 Dec 2006 /  #20
haha welsh that is a WORKING PERMIT. you NEED a RESIDENTIAL PERMIT all EU national NEED a residential permit THEY DO NOT NEED A WORK PERMIT.

sorry to sound rude mate no offence.
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
12 Dec 2006 /  #21
The poles are clearly aware that they are working illegally.

they are entitled to work here... just cos they havent sorted out the paper work is just beaurocracy...
OP manser  
12 Dec 2006 /  #22
bubba sorry but ive already reported it and im taking it all the way should HM customs conattc me aksing for a witness statement. Im not holding back like other brits do these days by playing chicken and not getting invovled.

This guy is getting invovled fully<
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
12 Dec 2006 /  #23
i have lived and worked in a number of european countries without sorting the paper work... so what... its just a formality... not really hurting anyone...

... plus... i prefer to be annonymous where ever i can be... especially here in the uk...
OP manser  
12 Dec 2006 /  #24
still illegal and cash in hand and paying no tax.

guilty, not going relaxed on them and they get whats coming.
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
12 Dec 2006 /  #25
mate... you do what you gotta do... just be sure that you are doing it for the right reasons...
OP manser  
12 Dec 2006 /  #26
bubbawhoo I know what your saying and i agree with you but with these 4 in particular their geting the full front of it all and siwft I hope.

bubba thanks, you sound a down to earth guy with logical reasoning, thanks. trust me I wouldnt conatc customs without good reasoning.
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
12 Dec 2006 /  #27
it really sounds personal manser... cash in hand is the employers problem... leave the employee out of it...
OP manser  
12 Dec 2006 /  #28
and as for my record, the guy tried to attack me first it was self-defence, i wasnt done for GBH i was done for criminal damage to their hosue afterwards. the other guy is on his last warning, this was nearly 3 years ago anywya, past./

the 4 employees are the ones i have a bone to pick,................this si the best way of getting *justice*, not for me though.

its been reported and im tkaing it fully
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
12 Dec 2006 /  #29
mate... whatever... i try to live my life without f*king people... and i expect the same in return... if these guys have hurt you in some way then fair dinkums... but what you have said so far sounds like it is just some people trying to get by...
OP manser  
12 Dec 2006 /  #30
its all legal and above board what i reported so im clean in that sense. lieing only comes back at you like i said which i havent.

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