Recruitment agencies advertise for Polish only workers

If someone in another country paid me £56 an hour to do what I do, I'd probably consider moving there (which would be the equivalent of your example above). And no doubt, the employers there would think of me as a good worker. Well, of course I would be - I'd be earning 4x what I was back home, and I might even be doing a job which it was allegedly difficult to recruit the "natives" to do!

It's completely understandable why Poles find it worthwhile to move here these days - but, unlike my parents generation, they are more likely to have moved here for purely economic reasons, not to escape the commie oppression. Who can blame them, but many do take the p*ss a bit as well. Remember "ola123" who used to post here, and suggested that "Poles should have the right to buy English property but English people should keep off Polish land"? Well, that's the kind of attitude I hate, because it brings shame on us as a people, and gives us all a bad name. No-one in the UK had a problem with us Poles until after 2002. Yet there were 250000 of us. But the combination of rapid immigration plus the "f**ing lazy Angole" attitude of many, has made us a hated people (Unfortunately, I hear stuff like this almost every day, and I have NO problem with telling such Poles what I think of their attitude to the country which gives them a living).

One of my uncles actually did time inside because my mum escaped Poland (and it cost him an Army promotion, too) and when I hear some of the recent immigrants talking about how they can smugly tell everyone that they will "go home in a few years and buy a large house, car and dzialka" on wages which only keep a Briton in a bedsit, is it really surprising that so many people in the UK are pissed off with immigration? Even I can see this, and I'm a Pole! You just don't bite the hand that feeds - because, as we Poles would say - To nie wypada!

No doubt someone will be along in a minute to tell me that I don't know what the **** I'm talking about, but I'll risk it. I've had a bad day so I really don't give a **** what anyone says. lol.


And Asian textile workers only really came over in the 1950s - 150 years after the northern English white working class started slaving 15 hours a day in them! It's funny how the liberals always seem to forget this.

Exactly,authorities made the decision they should deal with it. By nature and culture of polish people they will go back to their homeland as and when is necessary, they are not some parasites. UNLIKE SOME OTHER NATIONS , who want everything for nothing. They are clever people, not solely in england to take everything.

Most, but not all - my ex had NO shame in telling everyone that she moved towns because it was easier to get council housing (until she moved there and realised WHY there was so much empty council housing, haha :D ) and was constantly working out new ways to work as little as possible, in order to claim a higher proportion of her income as tax credits, etc. All her friends seemed to be into this little money-earner as well.

Obviously Poles cannot be blamed for this idiotic UK system, but please do not be under the illusion that no Poles ever come here to take advantage of that system!

If there is a system to be abused, it will be abused. I think that the polish will do it less than other nationalities. The uk put this system in force, they have to deal with it. If contolled immigration, after poland joined the EU had been better thought out, we would not have so much anamosity as we have today.

The authorities are to blame ,not the unproportunal levels as we see today.

Shelley, I can tell you that paying for tax and ZUS, plus flat usually leaves you with very little.

Harry, I meant per hour but thanks for the monthly figure anyway. 1,276 is a pittance.

Jihad, you are right on the mark. I've defended their right to extract money and return it home but you and I both know how it looks. The proverbial cash cow has limits.

Proof of the pudding lies in the close monitoring of the exchange rate. Golden times were in summer 2004 where it was 7 to 1. Even now, a 1000 pounds job is around 5500PLN. Things cannot be made so easy with specialist agencies as it isolates a specific group at the expense of another and Britain is multi-ethnic after all. Also, they still have budget airlines to use, not everybody uses LOT you know? ;) ;)

Well trying to explain about the Peterloo Massacre to an ignoran immigrant like Raghead would be a complete waste of time!

As for 15 hours, make that 20 and you're getting close to how they were worked half to death in the mills in Lancashire, this is why is p*sses me off that these pakis come over here and send this country back centuries, people died fighting for the rights of workers in my town!


They didnt have a crystal ball, how could they know how many people would arrive, the French and Germans and Italians and Spanish didnt come in the numbers that the A8 members did, had they known they would have used the same system that Germany did.


I can tell you that paying tax, insurance, pension, flat, utilities, tv, plus the rest can be a strain on the finances too, like I said if I was on minimum wage Id have to work over 70 hours a week to survive

Oh sorry my mistake, I thought that's what diplomats were for.

If you cannot estimate how many immigrants are likely to occupy your country, and you have no controlled immigration (ie a limited of 20,000 this year and maybe increasing by 10% next year). This is what I am saying blame the government, it is out of touch with real life, or it does not want to recognise real life.

I could have told you 5 years ago what the influx would have been. Nobody even thought about it, Tony was too busy showing people of Britain how beautiful he looked for 50!

This is peoples problem with mass immigration. They where sold a pup, if they realised the numbers that would come, they would not allowed it to happen. They where screwd then and continue to be screwed now.

it's hard to blame your own government, huh?

pgtx

I do blame them for the slavic invasion of Ireland, yes. To a degree. They will be voted out after the next general election. The funny thing is that it is not the state or the EU that is the real threat.

It's the tendency of people to let things slide if they can say 'I'm alright Jack'. There is discrimination by setting up your own agencies within another country but it is going largely unchallenged due to certain things.

Seanus

A simple solution to stop immigration is to boycott immigrants. In west and north Dublin people are shopping in Tescos and Dunnes Stores instead of the other chains, why? As the others employ mostly non nationals. Foreign taxi drivers are getting feck all business. Why? As Irish taxi drivers have Irish flags in their cars, thus, identifying themselves as locals. Support local workers.

Boycott any shops or other services that mostly employ foreign workers and write a letter explaining why you are taking your business elsewhere. Report foreigners you suspect of abusing the welfare system, report them for anti social behaviour, report them for driving foreign registared cars(illegal if you are living in the UK and Ireland), report them for bringing in their own ciggerattes, boycott, boycott, boycott.

It is perfectly legal and reasonable in the current climate, charity starts at home.

That's fair enough. It's an expression of the will of the people and they are taking a stand in their own way. It's not forcing them out so directly. You are helping the police do their job too. The police can't be there to stop every wrongdoing.

It's tactics on both sides. If they aren't picked up for discrimination, let the people take action.

I see why you had so much hunger in Ireland in the past.These tactiques don't work.

southern

Foreigners took the bread from my peoples mouth and they where left to eat the grass and berries from the trees, they left Ireland in coffin ships while the foreigner got fat. You cannot compare mass emigration from Ireland during the famine to mass immigration in to Ireland from eastern europe.

In fact, it is disgraceful to do so and an insult to the millions who lost their lives in the Irish genocide.

Boycotts do work, the term originated in Ireland. We got the Brits out of the south, not just by armed campaign, but by boycotting British aristocrats and British rule in Ireland. Ignore the foreigner, shun him, and he will leave.

Ignoruj obcokrajowca i on znika. :)

Yes,but foreigners lower prices.They also create some jobs.The wealth they create is supposed to dribble down to the lower social classes.

southern

They take more than they put into the system. They create jobs for their own demographic. Polish shops, Polish clubs, Polish pubs all employ Poles.

They lower prices alright, prices of labour. Reducing Irish peoples wages and working standards. They increase rents and house prices as there is more demand. Thus increasing the cost of living for the natives but driving down wages. Thus is why the elites love mass immigration, plenty of cheap labour and plenty of people to rent property to. All the while the natives pay the enormous social costs of shifting demographics.

They put fook all into the system as anyone under 35,000 euro pays only PRSI.

Irlandia dla irlandzkiego !

I have a good feeling that many of these houses will be on the market within a few years. How do they expect to maintain a house if they're not earning enough money to actually maintain it?

I've also heard from a Polish friend that people here are becoming very reluctant to hire Poles that have gone to the UK because of perceived attitude problems - so I suspect much of the smugness will be very quickly wiped off their faces.

Southern I'll give you a quick history lesson:

Irish starved to death in the 1,000s because of the blight and any food that was grown that lived was shipped to England to feed the English!

The attitude is one of entitlement, they believe themselves to be above the natives. So would you if the liberal media proclaimed your arrival into the country as the second coming. The media was lecturing the natives on how "great workers" the Poles where, "how educated they where", "how better looking they where".

All a myth of course. And its been exposed. Recessions do that.

ShelleyS

Try the 1,000,000s "Potato Famine" me left testicle.

Hmmm... I wonder if that would work on an Internet forum too.

I know exactly how many died and how many left do you think I got my surname because some Paddy fancied a holiday in England!

I think these are the same people who told me that the recession will never affect Poland as well! :)


My ex once told me that she could have "any job she wanted" if she went back to Poland. I replied, that if there are so many jobs in Poland, then why did so many move here because they couldn't find jobs? And did she not think that if everyone went back, then maybe unemployment might just rise back to the level it was at before all the Poles moved to the UK?

She couldn't answer that one :D

ShelleyS

What is the surname?

Typical blown-up confidence, not in touch with reality. The other side of discrimination is choice. The Polish skillset from workers who have gone to zawodowy school is pretty impressive and some may want to use that. If people don't want it, they won't opt for it.

Seanus

There is a thin line between confidence and arrogance.

A very thin line sometimes, you are right :)

Seanus

I am always right, I jest, I jest.

I've heard that there will be a 10% increase in people moving to Ireland, RN. Your Emerald Isle commercials must be working ;)

Seanus

The armalites are also working.