Polls for Poles in the UK

You don't ever vote then?

What the blazes are you doing moaning about the EU as well now?
We know you're a little britainer.

You are just using this as a way of trying to cover up your anti-democratic opinions.

Look, Tornado:
Round the back of this thread is a ladder for you to climb down off your high horse on.
It leads you down off the thread so you can have a little cool down talking about light-hearted websites for having fun on.

actually yes i do, because if i didn't i would have no right to complain about the state of the country


well your wrong, its as simple as that, translate it how you wish but don't write your slander about me here thank you :)


thats a little old don't you think


lol that just made me laugh :)

It's not slander.


No.


So you can lighten up then?

Well, there you go. So you'd not complain if your right to vote was taken away because you lived in another country (forget postal votes and embassies)? You'd just accept it would you? And say "well, that's fine cos I've chosen to live in another country for a year, I've given up the right to vote." No matter where in the world people live - if they are still considered a citizen of the country they came from, they should still be entitled to vote, however possible.

[quote=jareck8] i can sense an elemant of fear, this is natural when is confronted with change, the fact is uk is changing, chanigin fo rth ebetter, since migration uk is growing, growing in success with the collection of many people around the world all contributing, this is the same way people from the easter europe block will contribute..

m8 i dont know u and already i dont like u, so i advise u 2 shut ur trap. My feeling toward the polish are pretty much the same as tornados, im just back from warsaw and iv already booked up 2 go 2 gdansk in a couple o weeks, so i really like poland and the people, but u sound and seem nothing more than a complete clown 2 me

ok your guesses :)


ow yes :)


well if i wasn't in the UK for a number of years then why would it matter that much, any government can change what they like in two to three years and they usually all head down the same route, false promises, lies and manipulation

Libel is the term for a written defamation or inaccurate portrayal.
I, however, summarised what you had posted on the thread.
Think of it as an Omnibus-ette for those who can't be bothered to read all of your ranting.


Good. You must try it more often.

It should, if the UK is the country of your citizenship. Especially if you had family and friends there that would be affected by each election result. (And my initial scenario did mention a year only).

Torn... This issue has nothing to do with EU.

doll this is the uk, and as much as i welcome all eastern european people, im afraid that i agree opening polling stations in this country for any other nationality is bang out o order.............even if the country in mention has paid all the expense

Why? What is your argument on this? There is not a financial argument so all you are doing is denying people the right to vote.

PolskaDoll (PD)

my friend it has everything to do with the EU, if we were not in the EU we would not be where we are now and there wouldn't be uncontrolled immigration, therefore not as many poles, therefore no need to open polls for so many Poles :)

We have polling stations in probably every European country and that not your damn business.

No.


Controlled by market forces, whatever they are.


But why would you want to stop them? What do they take away from you by voting?
Did you want to use your local village hall or community centre one morning when lo and behold...

Um, what is it you are a student of Tornado?

suite yourself :)


Business and Computers, i'm studying my masters degree, also touched on law (Business) Sociology and a number of other subjects. If your just going to get personal whats the point, you want to start trading qualifications, you big man you :)


we will agree to disagree on that then won't we ;)


same here


its not the physicality of voting that is my point, its the fact its happening, i don't care if its Poles or Indonesians. as i said before we might as well scrap borders and call it USEU :)

- Good point, daffy. Also, what about the English football hooligans? And also, what about the hate propaganda against the Poles in the media in England (the film that torynado has seen perhaps included)? How does it basically differ from the Nazi propaganda? What about torynado's own Polonophobic perception of the world? And hey, torynado, the vast majority of Poles coming to UK in reality aren't 'immigrants,' only guest workers. I sincerely wish they didn't come there. And I hope they will eventually get the hell out, and leave your little precious island to the Third World crowds. The latter shall come inevitably. And you won't even squeak about it, due to your fear of 'antiracist' laws.

And then, perhaps, you will want to move out and flee....

Maybe even to Poland....

I wish you were in our shoes some day, pal.

My God, this forum is indeed a dump for all sorts of Polonophobes.

You're havering Tornado. The Polish people in the UK were voting in a Polish election. So what does that have to do with scraping borders etc? It's about people being able to have a say in the political future of the country of which they have citizenship for, regardless of their personal location.

exactly the type of thing people talk about on this forum, the poles who are victims :) i'm sorry but i can't respect your view as you can't even be bothered to spell my avatar name right its TORNADO not TORNAYDO PAL!!!!!. If you think i have a problem with Poland, Polish people or Polish culture then you are very very very wrong :) my last girlfriend was Polish, i have Polish friends, i have visited your country and i'm happy that there are Poles in the UK just not all Poles and not all immigrants.


listen dolly i know this sounds weird but its not that i want to deny the Poles their chance to vote, i don't want other countries political votes happening here, i know that stopping that stops them but i hope you understand what i mean, its not the polish people its not even poland its the situation. I think and am almost certain you understand this, unlike the total freak who posted just above you. I mean really why would i bother to come and talk make friends with polish people on a polish forum if i had problems with poles??

you are one of the people who have spoke to me the most and i think you know and understand my point as well as i understand yours

[quote=tornado2007] If your just going to get personal whats the point, you want to start trading qualifications, [quote=tornado2007]

Not getting personal at all. I was just wondering what it was you were studying. That's all. No trading, no worries, no hostility from my end.

I'm just interested in trying understanding where you are comming from.

Why?

Polish people voting in this country about their own country does not effect the running of this country. When you start to deny people the right to vote you open huge cans of worms Tornado. It's worrying that you think people should be denied thier right to vote because of their location on the globe.

As for your opinion of the person above me, he's as entitled to his opinion as you are to yours...

...you seem to be unable to defend your point of view without resorting to comments that might be interpreted a being gratutiously hostile.

If you are going to make points like those that you have made you have to be prepared for the possibility of having them being challenged. You ought to be able to defend your point of view without becoming annoyed at being challenged. What is there to become annoyed about?

ok fair one, thats fine then, just wondered what it had to do with what we were talking about to be honest :) so no hostility from my end either.


as i said no hostility from my end after your explanation. i do defend my points but i also like to throw a googly in their now and again to spice things up :)


i'm not annoyed i just usually like winding up some of the degenarates on here who like to taunt me with no point :) for example Gregorz

...spelling mistake? cut him some slack, lol

exactly so why should we allow them to do it, does it benefit us, does it affect our country does it have anything to do with our country, no it dosen't thats the whole point. Why don't we just let the Polish have and name their own bank holidays on our calendars too, let's see its Martyna's name day tomorrow :) (All though its not really but you see my point)


don't make me laugh dolly, have you seen what he's wrote :) he's just frustrated because he feels he's had a bad life and wants me to be like poor him in his situation. I have no sympathy or empathy what so ever. Everybody has their own problems

- Oh boy. Aren't your posts evidence enough you have the problem? Have the guts at least to admit that.

I'm as honest as the day is long, if you've seen my views on this forum before don't you think after voicing some of them i would have a problem with admitting that i had a problem with the Polish or Poland :)

I can tell you and so will others that i don't shy from giving my opinion :)

Because it's a right.


no, but doesn't do us any harm either.


Yes that is the point. I think now you're just maybe wanting to argue with anyone who will answer. You have no real arguments as to why Polish people shouldn't be allowed to vote in their own elections. (and BTW people from other countries who live in the UK who still have citizenship in their own countries - they vote in their elections too).

Torn, I'm sorry to say that but you behave like an idiot. We have polling stations in every corner of this planet and your "why we allow that" make you only look like a 13yo kid. If you had any idea about international law, you would know that It's not a case of allowing anything, you simply have no saying about that.