Poles in GB: Why did you go - for money or something else?

Good luck to them !! I however am pityful at saving, but have great fun spending it :)

I am quoting people, whom I saw on TV/read about in papers. I think it is still quite difficult to come out if a) your family is staunchly Catholic b) you live in a small town/village (I used to live in one for 15 years, then in Warsaw for nearly 15) Not to mention the fact that you can have a civil partnership here, whereas it'll take at least 10 more years (I am being wildly optimistic:)) for Polish parliament to even entertain the idea.

You beat me to it Wroclaw. :) Couldn't agree more with your opinion.

It's popular now in Poland to hate the Kaczyński brothers. It seems that it would be impossible to find a single person on the street that would acknowledge voting for PIS party. Never before, in the history of III Rzeczpospolita did a party had so bad press from the day one of their "rule". My opinion of our present government and the Kaczyński brothers is very critical, but I wouldn't call them dangerous ultra-catholic nationalists. The word incompetent springs to my mind, but that’s a topic for a different discussion.

However, polish educatin is still underated. Thanks for teh imput.

I agree that Polish education on the primary and secondary level is good, it is more academic than here.

I first went to UK to improve my English. I did some voluntary work for Queen's foundation for disabled and was very sorry to hear it had been closed. Later I went there for holidays to keep up with the language and perhaps make some pocket money for the academic year. After graduation, I went to UK to work and succeeded in getting a job as an English teacher (English as a foreign/second language) which has helped me in my career ever since. I feel a strong connection with the UK and am planning to return there. The relaxed attitude is one thing, freedom another, money a separate thing. I guess in both countries you can make a lot or little and it really depends on you.

most of my friends are there for money,they are recent university graduates with good english, french, german etc... some of them are going to school there and are able to work in the same time - both full-time- i don't know how they do it...

and i really miss them, but don't want to have such a pityful life as they have there... maybe i'm just too proud or sth. that i don't want to clean british toilets with my diploma ...

i hope they will come back here in the future although there is no future in poland for them, unless they can live with 1000 pl zloty in warsaw... i hope WE WILL ENJOY OUR LIVES like we used to do... that involves sex, drugs and electro ... sometimes hitchhiking to weird, hot places, singing on the streets, drinking too much and gang-bangs ...

That really doesnt have to be the way, there are jobs in the UK for Polish - my friend (Polish) is working for the Royal Bank of Scotland (very large bank / insurance...etc. finger in every pie), she doesnt have her degree yet, she's over here on a year out with her boyfriend, who is also doing very well..also not cleaning toilets,

Like i mentioned before, graduates do well over here, you just need to know where to look

google.com/support/jobs/bin/static.py?page=students.html
google.com/support/jobs/bin/static.py?page=students.html
uknetguide.co.uk/Employment/Jobs/Graduate_Jobs.html

have a look at these sites, maybe you'll change your mind and prospects in the UK

Most Poles from the post-EU accession "invasion"came here for work, but some also left PL to escape the suffocating pseudocatholic government and their deranged ideas

I agree with u I ma 29 polish I left poland coz its damm stupid pleace 2 live at the moment. I was fed up of all this politacl **** all the time. here I m twice hapier coz life so normal. People seems 2 be more easygoing etc. Poland is country full of complainers I am bit like that still but geting better eheheh. If u will seat with polish people in the pub they always complain neve ever ha[py there is alway somethin going wrong in their minds.

with regards

Baba z wozu, koniom lżej.

Give it time sammy,you'l find that complaining and moaning are something that is a national pastime of both our countries :)

The truth is that there's really a huge difference (in general) between english and polish mentality. English people seem to be a lot friendlier, enjoying life etc. Of course I've a lot of friends in Poland that are like that, but I miss english parties, people approaching me just to chat with a stranger etc. - on Friday and Saturday the whole city goes out to have fun, a lot of older people included. Its different in Poland, you won't meet too many people in their 50s or 60s in pubs. But I hope this will change relatively soon.

Plus those techno-rednecks from Poland who just drank a sh*tload of vodka every weekend, while listening to techno at home. Just to save up. Jesus, that is so pathetic. Luckily, not every person from my country is like that.

Arrgghh!! you are right in your 3rd post - but well, I was one of those polish lads who came, partied, worked, had some great times with british girls ]:-> and generally... being in Liverpool rocked. I would love to meet a brit girl and stay in England, but I got a good job in Poland etc.

Anyway, I hope polish mentality will change with time, especially because a lot of Poles are spending some time in other coutries, and I will see more people smiling at me randomly on the street.

Bla bla bla.

Read ya later ;>

How did u get it from? Is she a lapdancer and her boyfriend pimp? How they can save 1K a month its ******** sory. Most of my polish frineds living and spending. Sometimes can save some money but what u said Its the bigest bolocs ever. Good luck for them anyway:) Can they contact me coz maybe I will get some tips how 2 do it LOL

with regards

Yeah, people in Poland are fed up with politics. What's more they are ashamed of the people who represent them. But on the other hand they in fact vote in such a way. I think Poles are a some kind of a cursed nationality- they never learn by mistakes and love to believe in lies! Only abroad they are considered smart and hard-working but in their homeland they appear really pathetic to me :(

I'm English and I've met and worked and got drunk with loads of Poles over the last year or so, and being quite a nosey sod, I've asked most of them why they're here.

There doesn't seem to be one specific reason. Some come for work. As unemployment in Poland is high. Some come because while they had work in Poland, the money wasn't enough to live on. Some come because they want to improve their English. Some because they're pissed off with the Govt / think Poland is too corrupt. Some because they want to earn a shed load of money. (that isn't always possible... but maybe it's easier here than Poland) Some because they've heard the UK is more relaxed (maybe that's a Catholic Polish thing.. not too sure)

That's the simple version. I get the feeling that most come here for a mixture of the reasons above.

I'm only saying what I have heard with my own ears, this isn't a dig at Poland, far from it.

The answer I've heard most though... is that wages here are good. Which may be true if you're prepared to deny yourself everything for a couple of years, then go back to Poland with your savings. I can see that. But as soon as you start to "live" here, like the natives then you realise the wages aren't too high, that the cost of living is comparative, and you end up just like most Brits, working to pay the bills.

Interestingly, a lot of the Poles I know very well, have no intention of returning to Poland but really like it here and intend to stay. :)

you think anything is different here... you will soon find out

Very true.

While the Poles are moving here all the Brits that I know complain that the countries going to the dogs and want to leave and live in Spain or Australia.

And many who do so are soon whinging about their adopted countries and how they wish they were back in the UK.

I spent much of last year working with Polish builders in UK. I have a good command of the Polish language and I can safely say that money was THE motivating force for the people I worked with being in Britain.

If more Brits understood Polish I think they would have a different view of many Poles. The guys I worked with did not have a good word to say about anything in the UK but I think a lot of this stemmed from a deep inferiority complex!

- And that's yet another Polonophobe on this forum.


- You surely must have some sound grounds to think so. What are they?


- But, as can be seen here, you surely have got lots of good words to say about Poles.

Is it stemming from your superiority complex, perhaps? Did you know both complexes are tightly connected with one another, like two sides of the same coin?


- You mean all Poles? Hmmm, I wouldn't be sure all Poles are a 'cursed nationality,' 'never learn by mistakes' (sic), and 'believe in lies,' but I'm damn sure you're a pathetic Polonophobe. Even if you're Polish.

Puzzler Whooaaa !
I'm only telling what my experience working with a small group of guys was! Mind you, you're showing the classic signs of jumping to conclusions and having the defensive radar on full throttle.

By the way I like Poles a lot! My parents were both Poles and I was brought up in a crazy, fun Polish household in the UK

I don't know about inferiority complex. It might as well be. But I do see a similarity between some Poles that complain about how hard it is in Poland and how ****** their country is just to go abroad and do the same to their new residence country, with some brits mentioned before by truebrit:


The moral of this story for me would be that "boys will be boys" and "moaners will be moaners". Of course, people biased towards brits or poles will reached a different conclusion to mine... Oh well....

i work with a lot of poles

would say its quality of life here