Why do Poles come to England?

England has its bad side(like everywhere) but for many reasons it is still among the best (perhaps it is the best) countries to live and work- I don't have time to make a long list here of its many good points.

The Polish people are welcome to come and work here - I prefer them to lazy British scroungers who our government allows to sit on their chav arses getting fat. At least the Polish are not afraid to work.

re: England has its bad side

- The only bad side I can see is the cost of living, which is often very high.

- The English - the real English, that is - are the most decent people I've ever met. (I also think similarly about the Irish.)

I know several personally.


I think that you are right actually. They, the Poles, are indeed a strange odd lot! I think that is why they cling to religion so much too as it keeps them apart from being too closely aligned to the Soviet Union. It does not mean that the Poles are religious in any real true sense of the word because they are not. They are always right about everything too, it is always the fault of Churchill or Stalin but they never see any fault in themselves and they think that by joining the E.U. will simply bail them out like another Marshal plan. A very odd bunch if you ask me!

I agree although apart from the cost of housing(rent/house prices) and public transport many other living costs are very cheap compared to the past (clothing,food,electrical goods).

re: the Poles, are indeed a strange odd lot ... A very odd bunch if you ask me

- Psychopath, nobody actually has asked you; you've taken the liberty yourself. Now, as usual, you spit out Polonophobic generalisations, but don't back them with any facts. Prove eg. that Poles are 'always right about everything,' that 'they think that by joining the E.U. will simply bail them out like another Marshal plan.' I'm afraid you're unable to do that.

Nor are you able to prove the Poles chose communism n 1945. You seem unaware that by suggestng just that you have broken Polish law which punishes for denying communist crimes against our nation. I think that at least one person on this forum will be only too pleased to let the Polish authorities know about that. We'll see if you'll be able to come to Poland any more. I'm afraid you'll have to stck to where you are, just like your fellow tribewoman, Wolinska.

I would advise folks running this forum for kicking out this hate-monger from it, or they may be considered participants in hs crime.

I have seen quite a few psychos, including those who, like you, pretend being English. Yet both their and your savagery shows who you really are.

easy there. there's no anti-Polish conspiracy on this forum. it's at the least not polite to throw blunts at the forum management. nor is it wise ;)

Michal is Russian, BTW, and it isn't a secret :)

nobody believes he is for one moment

I think that it is wrong to say that one people are necessarily better than another race. I went to France recently and there were some really nice ones there too, that is the French, sorry to admit it! I must agree though that there does seem to be something wrong with people who need to search out nice Poles as if they do not have enough decent English amongst whom they are already located, especially if one tends to be English yourself in the first place. I know many many Poles, nice ones at that but when I have got to know them well, would I exchange them for Brits? The answer is simply no. The Poles are good at first impressions when they need to sell themselves to you but later on you will see through all this guile, I always have managed to. As for the Catholic Church, another strory!


What is BTW when it is at home?


Mind you, as a P.S. I have traveled to the North of England and they are quite different from those here in the South East of England so it all depends on conditioning I suppose. I must say that I prefer the North of England myself.


To tell you the truth, I see many of these Polish workers and they are the 'pits', the type that would be rejected for National Service even and that is why they come apple picking in huge numbers.

Yeah, and of course it's perfectly ok for you to go round calling people that ! I think you are the 'pits'

All the Polish people who recently came to work here, the ones that I have seen . They work damned hard for low wages...........

You really are a horrible little man :(

Always posting derogatory things about Polish people.....Are there no Russian forums you can join ???

Who the hell are you to judge? I know people that are working in the UK (including my GF) for opportunities that don't exist in most places within Poland. Keep in mind that many of these PL are also attending university and getting an education. If the opportunity and experience is there, why not take it? Being 'go getter' has proven to be a success in most cases. Just because you're miserable, it doesn't mean you have to be bitter towards others. I wish i could come to the UK and "steal" your job, but fortunately I don't 'fancy' being a prick.

Well said Fisz.

To me this one phrase sums up all of the Polish people that I have ever worked with. All the ones I know are hard working and have a ‘can do’ attitude. To a man or woman they have exhibited a strong desire to learn and better their knowledge and experience. Maybe because of the field I work in I have not met any of the ‘feckless’ Poles (to borrow the uttered and almost immediately retracted phrase used by their Prime Minister when in the UK). Of course there are going to be Poles in this category in the UK, it’s a statistical certainty. but it is so unfair to put down our new Polish co-residents with vitriolic and unfounded statements that apply to a small minority.

you do not have to be and nobody asked you to go anywhere and be anything that you do not want to be? Did I demand something from you? And I am sure that there are now a lot of Polish at British universities, they come because they love the cheap costs involved, they are not stupid, they do that for their own long-term goals, not for us! Think about it a little. I used to see the Poles in Moscow years and years ago and I know how they behave!

No, but you just ask for it by making your comments.


No, they aren't stupid. The fact is that a degree from a UK Uni looks a lot better to future employers than a degree from poland. Of course they get degrees and work experience for themselves.....duh. Do you think I work to support my country or other people??


Wipe the dust off of your brain...today is today...not years ago.

edited becouse fiz is a good person !!!!!
happy puzzler is back!!!!!!
hope...... ola will come back soon too!!!!

Mooooo...nooo!! read my statement Esp. That wasn't directed towards a group of people. Just 1 person. Please don't assume without reading first silly cow :P

how many people work for purely altruistic reasons? not many, I know I don't. So you push trolleys for teh good of the shoppers in Tescos? that's asuming you do push trolleys in Tescos for a living, after all we only have your word for it, and from what I've seen your word isn't worth very much

They are illegal in the United Kingdom.
We don't study our poo.

More seriously:
Some have to help support their families - the state pension in Poland is not enough.
Some are not tied to where they are from - if they want to earn more, they go where the money is, where the jobs are.

Some are told by their mothers - get off your arse, and go and get a job!
Two or three of them have come for the food and weather. Maybe.

I do notice there is a trend for the older workers to have a better work ethic than the young. For some young people, they haven't had a proper job in Poland before coming to the UK. When they arrive, they see how easy they can take it.

Others, especially older people, are prepared to graft, doing great credit to their standing in the UK's labour market. Unfortunately, this effort is all too often taken for granted.

Why don't we just put it like this: UKGUY, if a Polish person had started this thread and titled it "Why do the British think they own every country in the world, they think they can go and live anywhere they want but god forbid we should go and stay there" you would have something to say about it, wouldn't you?!

thank i m not english ........if i was..,,,,, i will be very angry !!!! but is not the fault of the polish people or others european countrys

i m sure homer simson can do a better job than bush or blair

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Of course. I personally own the entire world.
And a few other worlds too.

I wasn't attacking the British in the post by the way...I'm British! trust me, it wasn't a snipe at the British, but more the ignorant and rude British. Like the ones who would join here just to attack the Polish.

I wish I had my own world :(

Rude people are LOUDER than good people.

He was talking to Michal not you - which is bloody obvious if you read the thread.

So I guess that makes him wiser than you then LOL

depends on location


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I have noticed that too!

What's wrong with looking after your own self? I work my rear-end off and, yes, the job I do benefits other people but I work hard to make money so that I am comfortable in my life. I don't think you work for the greater good of others either!

Can we forgive misplaced apostrophes of their's?

Why did I move 15 miles across Hertfordshire for my job?
That is the question.

Exactly, they never have a good word to say about the English or the British education system but they know that a free British degree given as a 'home student' looks better. That says it all!

In your skewed views.

Wow! That's a lot of attention, thank you! I would never have expected my two or three sentences to become the reason for such a huge rant!

I think you should read what I wrote with a little less bias. If you wish to see Pole-bashing, or Poland-bashing, it is enough to turn to Polish forums such as Londynek.net, or to the comments sections under most articles about the UK on onet.pl and onet.eu.

You can also have a look at blogs written by Poles living in the UK.
It makes me sick, it makes me mad, it makes me sad - the prevalent opinions of "we're never going back to that Polish dump, Poland is a madhouse, Polish people are stupid and ugly, we as a nation will never catch up" etc.

As you asked - I know Poles don't usually speak English, because I interpret for them. I also taught English in Poland, university level, and my students weren't terribly keen on studying it.

Actually my dear Puzzler, you have gotten me all wrong: Poland is my country and I am going back there as soon as I can.

I would have preferred to come to England when I was still a student, but unfortunately at that point in time I did not have the money. So I decided to visit when I could. And no, I am not a kitchen porter trying to feel better about myself.

If you want to hate me, feel free to do so. It's your life.

free degrees in Britain, not had them for years ......and as far as I know oversea's students on the whole have to pay more so,I for one am not going to complain about foriegn students coming and "abusing " our uni's,well maybe Bill Clinton and his "i didnt inhale" years at Oxford.....