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What are Polish Peoples Views of a Re-United Ireland


Trevek 26 | 1,702  
24 Aug 2009 /  #31
What about the 1 million or so unionists in Northern Ireland? Who by their very definition want to keep the unionification with the crown? How can they be convinced to join a republic? Surely, they would have to re-define themselves as Irish protestants instead of british loyalists/unionists? Can you see this ever happening?

I remember being intrigued by what the unionist politician david Ervine once said about his idea of Loyalists/Unionists having to reassess themselves oncelebrating their "Britishness" rather than simply being anti-Irish. IT suggests that some unionists might see the inevitable and realise they need to redefine themselves. I suppose if they became an "ethnic moniroity" in the republic then they could milk EU for some money ;D

I often wonder if the idea of a borderless Europe will eventually lead to the idea of north/south borders in Ireland being an anachronism (if they aren't already).
SeanBM 35 | 5,808  
24 Aug 2009 /  #32
Now, care to address my points?

Your points are all off topic.

Topic reads "What are Polish Peoples Views of a Re-United Ireland".
OP Ireland32 2 | 172  
24 Aug 2009 /  #33
Sorry for bringing a dose of reality into the debate. Now, care to address my points?

The mods already did

Rule 8......oh and check out Rule 6 & 7 too. They should pull you on that too.

If anyone on the forum is interested in Sinn Fein stradegy or the part we have played in brinigng peace and furthering the path to the re-unification of Ireland, you are welcome to browse, at your own convenience at the Sinn Fein website sinnfein.ie
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
24 Aug 2009 /  #34
If anyone on the forum is interested in Sinn Fein stradegy or the part we have played in brinigng peace and furthering the path to the re-unification of Ireland

I am. Now, lets see their white paper on re-unification, please. It doesnt have it on their site, probably a glitch. They do have one, right? :)

You can have the support of the 38 million Poles. My previous point still stands. Read the GFA and it will confirm it.
OP Ireland32 2 | 172  
24 Aug 2009 /  #35
PPS I would like you to tell us all about Sinn Feins white paper on re-unification, please?

I am. Now, lets see their white paper on re-unification, please

Which is it you want....next you will be looking the orange one !!!

You can have the support of the 38 million Poles

Thanks, that the reason why I set up the thread.

Bit ironic when 38 million Poles will support my aspiration but you seem not too.

Your more interested in spreading hate and venom.

PPS what movement did you say you were aligned too. I know you mentioned it in a previous thread but I didnt pay much attention....you have that effect on people.
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
24 Aug 2009 /  #36
Under the section of campaigns you will find our paper on irish Re-unification as well as other party papers on GFA and its expansion.

White paper please.
time means 5 | 1,310  
24 Aug 2009 /  #37
Given that both RN and 32 are in the pro camp and fight like cat and dog, what is the chance of those with opposing views (unionists/republicans) agreeing?
Trevek 26 | 1,702  
24 Aug 2009 /  #38
Personally, I'd prefer it if Polish people enquired about Sinn Fein and learned about what it is and it's aims from legitimate activists, rather than just learn a few rebel songs from a football fan and start waving dodgy flags (as happened in belfast a few months back) without knowing what it all stands for.
OP Ireland32 2 | 172  
24 Aug 2009 /  #39
Correct......That is why I provided the website

sinnfein.ie

There are many links including the Sinn Fein shop in Dublin where you can purchase books and other articles relating to the struggle for Irish Re-unification.
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
24 Aug 2009 /  #40
Ireland32

What do they make of Sinn Feins marxist beliefs? :)
OP Ireland32 2 | 172  
24 Aug 2009 /  #41
RevokeNice

Jasus your like a bad rash. Never go away do you? Have they not developed a cream yet to get shot of you?

Where you been? Surfing the net for more boring statistics or finishing of that website of yours? Dont tell me......they pulled your EU funding on it.
McCoy 27 | 1,275  
24 Aug 2009 /  #42
Your honest opinions please.

God bless united Ireland.
Barney 15 | 1,472  
24 Aug 2009 /  #43
What are Polish Peoples Views of a Re-United Ireland

From my experience Polish people couldnt care less about the reunification of Ireland.

Every political party in Ireland bar the unionist (British Irish) desire this, it makes economic sense.

The Violence was necessary to change the apartheid nature of the six counties. I'm old enough to remember before the troubles admittedly through the eyes of a child. All aspects of Irish life were ignored, people with Irish names were never seen or heard, Gaelic games were not shown or reported on TV or radio etc. It was the cutting edge of the people that changed that.

When equality was achieved (Some are slow learners) the violence stopped. The hard work has now begun.

At least I picked one up you fecking armchair patriot and recognised the time to put it down

You would have lasted a long time in Castlereagh, FFS Get real
Trevek 26 | 1,702  
24 Aug 2009 /  #44
Just curious, what went wrong?

There were anti-catholic laws passed in 17th Century. Being protestant was then linked to power holding. It became advantageous to be protestant and so linked to the crown.

Ironically, prior to this many of the leaders of uprisings, like Wolfetone and H.J. MacCracken were protestants.

It's important to note that even today not all republicans are catholic and not all loyalists are prods.
irishdeano 5 | 304  
24 Aug 2009 /  #45
loyalists

Its also important to know that King James was a loyalist.

History going back there was the irish protestants who fought for ireland, The Plantation prodestants are were most Modern day Protestants see themselves, Also an important note to people Ulster is not british, Ulster Is not Northern Ireland. 1/3 of Ulster is in the Republic just putting this out because of some posts at the start regarding.

Ireland will be united one day....

But the old boys sold the 6 counties out when they were offered if they let there airports be used in the world war they would give the 6 counties but they said no.

Cut a long story short

It will happen one day... In my life time? Possible.
Trevek 26 | 1,702  
24 Aug 2009 /  #46
Its also important to know that King James was a loyalist.

A good point, maybe that's why they made him king.

He was also the person whose Daddy, (James 1st and 6th) invented the concept of Great Britain
szkotja2007 27 | 1,499  
24 Aug 2009 /  #47
Interesting to note that many Jacobites in the '45 came out for the clan rather than the King ( Charles Sobieska Stuart ). Protestant and Catholic.
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893  
24 Aug 2009 /  #48
Inside Poland, Poles have a reflex to support independence movements but it really only kicks in high gear when the independence movement is against an enemy (like supporting Chechens against Russia). To the extent that the reunification movement is perceived as damaging Britian,

Said who? Ireland was a complete country until the British devided it. Its nothing like Chechens and Russians.

I have spent my life dedicated to the cause of Irish Unity. I have travelled far and wide to spread the word and gain support.

If it makes you feel any better, I dont know one Brit would be sad if Ireland was united, I dont mean that in an offensive way, its just I dont know anyone that considered people in Belfast as British, they're Irish. I dont know how people in Belfast feel about that comment.
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535  
25 Aug 2009 /  #49
British

Give an academic defination of being British 100% :)
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893  
25 Aug 2009 /  #50
What do you mean by 100% British? I was referring to those of us on the mainland in my comment. British means you are English, Irish, Scotish or Welsh or from NI, for me someone 100% would be either of them or a mixture. Of course there are those that have been here for 2 minutes who say they are British.

The above isnt an academic view, its my view and the view of most people who are English.
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535  
25 Aug 2009 /  #51
2 minutes

you mean One Hundred and Twenty Seconds!
Trevek 26 | 1,702  
25 Aug 2009 /  #52
Sorry Shelley, you've confused me...

I dont know anyone that considered people in Belfast as British,

but then...

I was referring to those of us on the mainland in my comment. British means you are English, Irish, Scotish or Welsh or from NI,

Not trying to be confrontational here but are you saying YOU consider "British" to include NI, whereas others don't?
Harry  
25 Aug 2009 /  #53
What are Polish Peoples Views of a Re-United Ireland? I've yet to meet one who gives a f*ck.

Our struggle is well known trhoughout the four corners of the globe.

Damn right: the world over people have no learned it is not a good idea to sell a vanload of fertilizer to an Irish bloke who's in a hurry and paying cash.

Booby Sands

Thanks for reminding me about this terrorist. I need to get a chicken for supper.
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
25 Aug 2009 /  #54
What are Polish Peoples Views of a Re-United Ireland? I've yet to meet one who gives a f*ck.

Very true and why would they? It is not their country, I am sure a few sing rebel sings in the pub with their paddy mates but thats where it ends. Ireland32 is deluded if he thinks the Poles will all vote Sinn Fein. In fact, they seem to vote for Fianna Fail, as they allowed them into the country. Fianna Fail ran three Polish candidates in the last election.

Thanks for reminding me about this terrorist. I need to get a chicken for supper.

Silly, silly comment.

British means you are English, Irish

What?
time means 5 | 1,310  
25 Aug 2009 /  #55
anyone that considered people in Belfast as British

I do!
PlasticPole 7 | 2,649  
25 Aug 2009 /  #56
Britain should have just left that entire island ALONE!!!
time means 5 | 1,310  
25 Aug 2009 /  #57
Britain

Another American who thinks the involvement goes back 30 years or so.
Trevek 26 | 1,702  
25 Aug 2009 /  #58
Britain should have just left that entire island ALONE!!!

If the Irish had left Britain alone in the first place there might not have been any Scots. Bloody foreigners, coming over, speaking Gaelic and milking the pictish benefit system for all it had!
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
25 Aug 2009 /  #59
Damn right: the world over people have no learned it is not a good idea to sell a vanload of fertilizer to an Irish bloke who's in a hurry and paying cash.

No, just the UK.
Barney 15 | 1,472  
25 Aug 2009 /  #60
Harry

I dont care what your view on the topic is and it seems you dont either.
Your morals seem to be as empty as your posts.

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