Negative attitude towards Polish immigration in UK becoming stronger

I think you have embraced capitalism a little too enthusiastically.......

Let me keep my house at least

what you want?

..not much...

I'd like to visit my family in Poland as often as i want. That's it basicly :)

Most welcome...

foreigners wil emmigrate to poland now u r in the e.u you exiled poles wont recognise the place in 10 or 15 years lol

Maybe or maybe not ....even if..so what?? I'm proud of being polish and i'm proud of polish history (many nations tried to f..ck us up but no one never did it), but i'm so annoyed about polish government and politics. You can't live in your native country because of its history only, can ya ?

Isnt this thread about immigration - not sex?

You are sick woman.. when will you face the fact?

I haven't read many of the threads but i'd say that i agree with the name of this topic, that there is more negativity towards immigrant workers, Polish, Lithuanian or whatever. Some people have thought it through and formed the opinion, some people just read the sun newspaper and use its opinion and others are just racists.

My personal opinion is that there are too many migrant workers in the UK, we need to get the thousands maybe millions of people who are un employed into the jobs that immigrants are willing to do. Coffee shops, cleaners, bars or whatever. We are in the UK we need to look after our own before anybody else. Hopefully you can see that this is not a racist view or a sun newspaper view but the view of somebody who cares about his country

thanks

T

As soon as you realise that you are a complete fuckwit with no sense of humour....Batty Boy!

I hold that view too.

It's not a race thing at all, it's just a view from many British people (like me) who feel that our Government isn't bothered about us and puts the well being of foreigners first.

yeah that sums it up pretty well.

id like to go live in poland i quite fancy living abroad

I lhave lived in Blackpool all my life and there has always been a polish community in Blackpool,since the 1940s.Poles in blackpool are a well respected minority in the town and welcolmed by most sand grown people.There are bound to be tensions between the indiginous population and new incoming poles and other immigrants in a period of econonomic turmoil and disruption caused by greedy capitalists,mostly on the other side of the world.lets not forget our worker solidarity when criticising ethnic groups,an unemplyed pole is probably just as unhappy as an unemployed blackpuddlian.i have been toPoland and was welcomed with open arms.Maybe more polish businesses opning in blackpool would breathe some much needed life into our struggling town!

a tip for polish and immigrants: Never go to the south east or south west. they HATE immigrants. im talking about killings!

go up north or scotland

Has your mummy forgotten to put the child lock on teh computer again?

Go up north or Scotland. Scotland, yeah, they are more civilised and accommodating there. The Scots understand the Poles better, that's what I hear.

What Poland needs is some Muslims.

They are the kindest, most hospitable, and tolerant people you could ever meet.

We have a surplus in the UK and would be glad to share them with you.

I will give you the bargain rate of 3,000,000 Muslims for 10 Poles.

It is a good deal.

For me.

ha very funny . that s the big difference .
I m swiss and used to work in the Uk in the so called service industry and it s very funny what bluebird says some muslims or Romas or what ever. I even was about to leave to the czech republic to settle over as a german teacher . Don t gt me wrong ther will be a lot of interesting insight s of their culture . I love the eastern or new middle european attitudes by some cultaural issues an dwe can learn some thing s visit and make up ur mind . It might be a fantastic experience especially for u as an UK man or woman .

But the the funniest thing you argue about is the issue about that they take away your jobs or work for less.
Kinda right. I m working in Switzlerland for a finnish mobile company and I cope with loads of Yugos and Turks , and I m willing to teach them stuff even though my boss doesn t increase my wages for my civil courage . But what does it change to my attitude , it s up to the leaders to provide social peace and extras to everyone so I cant blame on the foreigners or the new fellas from our founded EU ( also EFTA feels almost the same except that we re overload by germans not by polish ; guess they don t like the german culture for some reasons even they are more similar in their minds than vladimir Nabakov who was not so charmed by the german mentality due his exiles in Berlin from the bolshevik revolution)

So ... The issue is all about being exhausted by all these economical terms .
I feel for the british people in that way that you are overthrown by lot of guys and gals you can make friends with and even start to love them , but it s the money they come for . The travellers with a ceratin cultural interest in your unique culture used came the ninetees when things seemed to be more conceivable. we are in the 21st century now and everyone is struggling. it s a very new phenomena that people just flow into the country cos of money , and they probably don t know how to organise in unions and they probably are not so much interested in getting educated on ho wto do it as well as they more kinda like to form the so called parallel culturalism not the multiculturalism , cause they only stay for a certain amount of time or till they get retarded. an d return back home to become rich. SO you feel not supported by them and see them bein the destroyers of a system which has evolved back in the days when they haven t even known anything about the western society and their struggles.

So it s hard to cope with all the cultural differences that still remain in the Europen union. Especially the sense of Humour.
We was fearing polish and now we re overload by the uninterested Germans.
it s a fact but still pick up some guys taht are alright... geezers you ` re naot alone come over to the continent and make up your minds.

I agree... imagine taking them from the fairly decent education system in Poland and dropping them in the hoody-hell education sytem dat is in da UK, innit!?

It's amazing how hypocritical this western mob is.

Just a few years ago I heard stories that recruiting agencies in the UK were asking polish people, who were applying for work, if they had any family in Poland so that they could tell them to come in and work in the UK.

Firstly, the polish immigration to the UK has boosted the British economy enormously. They take jobs that natives don't want to take, they work hard, they are very keen on overtimes, they are skilled, and they tend to care for their work, while the natives don't give a toss about their jobs, they just come to hang around, do nothing, smoke a fag and go home.

And it is not only work that spins the economy. Spending money and buying things, that is the true spinning power for the economy. And polish community spends the pound. They buy cars, houses, clothes, food, they use public transport to get to their jobs etc, etc.

Secondly, there's always been polish immigration in the UK. Polish pilots were fighting in the battle of England during the WWII, lots of them sacrificed their lives.

And not to mention that the west sold Poland to the Communism, and thanks to western numbness Poland has fallen behind the Iron Curtain, and the dark era for Poland begun.

And thirdly, the EU couldn't afford not allowing the central and eastern European countries to join in. Because Poland alone with a population of nearly 40 million people is a effing huge market. Add to this number the population of Czech Rep. Slovakia, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Hungary considering that those countries are at the best moment of the economy i.e. they are starting to spin, and you get bigger market than the 'Old EU'. What if central and eastern Europe created their own union? EU just couldn't let it happen. Huge consumption force.


And wtf is that supposed to mean?

Are you kidding? If you're taking about Poland that means that you were the dumbest child in the history lessons. The Polish were always present in the history of Europe.

During the Golden Age period, Poland expanded its borders to become the largest country in Europe. The Polish fought the Tatars from invading ,then, the Christian Europe. The Polish fought with Napoleon, Lots of Polish were in the Anders Army, fighting all across Europe during WWII. There always been a great connection with France. Lots of polish intellectuals were residing in France cross centuries like Chopin for example. Lots of polish scientists were well known in the west like Marie Curie.

Kosciusko had fought in the American Revolutionary War as a colonel in the Continental Army. There is lots of polish history in the western history.

There are lots of countries in western Europe with which polish nation was connected across the ages, hence lots of polish centers in those countries like France, UK, Germany. Poland was playing a big role in Europe before it was alienated and disconnected from the outer world by the Iron Curtain, and even before when it was invaded, parted and occupied till 1918.

Well to close the subject, even Anglo-Saxons are immigrants on the British Isles, they were brought there by the Romans.

i am romanian.today i went to lloyds tsb to try and open an account for my brother in law who just arrived from romania one week ago and will start work on monday.he doesn;t have a proof of address cos he just arrived but i know i can introduce him as i am one of their costumers. i asked this lady working there if it;s possible to open an account bla bla bla that he lives with me and i am a costumer.she said yeah it;s fine no problem, but what country r u from? her answer? ''romaniannnnnnn nooooooo u need a proof of address''.i asked why.i got this answer i have never got in the six years i lived in london: ''u ask me why?'' having this wondered face and smiling at me.like u know''u dirty romanians can't open an account without a proof of address cos u r romanians'' or '' u dirty pieces of shit , useless second class citizens r not worthy opening an account with us''. I work here legally for 6 years.i have a mortgage, i have no debt no problems with police.nothing wrong with me. ''bad'' ppl are everywhere, but they shouldn't try to put us down for making a better life for ourselves.i know endless pure british ppl that have lived all their lives on benefits or pakistani,indian,somalian who live in free houses with 7 children on MY MONEY.or british jews (the very religious ones) that have i swear a whole bunch of kids and r not married legally just to get free huge houses from the council.everybody knows that but nobady does nothing.british ppl make me sick.

Well, I can sympathise as Romania is now in the EU I think. Still, standards are standards and asking for proof is necessary. Data protection etc etc.

You see, the thing is, you have just ASSUMED most of all of that. Believe it or not, the UK is tightening up on immigration. What's the problem with the proof of address? If your brother-in-law has a landlord they'll provide proof. Yes with Lloyds TSB you can introduce someone but you still need all the relevant proof. Just so you don't feel so victimised, I am a British citizen and I require to have proof of address. Last year I took out a new contract with a company and it took me 3 hours in an office to prove myself.

Don't bother trying to palm off stict proof policies as "being against Romanians".


Some of them make me sick too. What makes me more sick is one individual deciding a whole nation has the same mindset. Actually, more than making me sick, it makes me worried. It means you can't define between individuals.

You need to show a document (or two) with your address on it and I'm sure it works the same in Romania as well as in any country. You can't just walk in and open an account saying your name and address to the clerk. No need to feel insulted. I'm sure you had to do it when you opened your account. Right?

Precisely PD, it's quite disturbing but symptomatic of our times. Security is a standard feature. I had to call a bank based in the UK for my Polish friend. We pre-planned what she was gonna ask in advance but, little did I know, she gave me the Spanish Inquisition. I had to ask Jarek about 10 more questions.

This is a major area of work for career professionals. I'm with Nationwide and they always explain key new policies and the underlying need for safety. It's a bigger undertaking than most people think.

So, linking it into the thread, immigrants have to get used to our ways. Lord only knows that I have had to wrangle with authorities here. It's like Sharia Law, forget it! We are not gonna bend over backwards to accommodate foreigners. That Romanian woman must have been living in the Stone Age as documentation is a must almost everywhere. The moment we begin to have one standard for one group and another for others is when it'll start to go wrong. EU harmonisation and streamlining ain't always so bad :)

It;s got nothing to do with Nationality. We all have to go through these processes now.

It's because of International Money Laundering Laws and International Anti Terrorism Laws.

In any case you never have been able to open a bank account for another adult unless of course you have full power of attorney on them.

The Bank would face huge penalties and imprisonment of some of their staff if they ignore these International Laws......look it up !

:)

Had problems as a British person in Romania too, so it works both ways.

I'm glad you finally managed to go out and see the world.

How the do you imagine a bank will give you an account without a proof of identity and address? Where will they send statements? Who will the chase if someone does funny things with the account? So in the end the bank has the right to ask "and just who the fvck are you"?

Two pieces of ID and a proof of address are pretty standard wherever I lived. Heck, just a couple of years ago in Canada, if I wanted to extend my Canadian passport then my soon to expire Canadian passport was a proof of nothing.

Ive never met a poor jew in my life, so I very much doubt they will be getting "free" anything! As for not being married legally, if they are not married they must be cohabitting, lots of brits do it!


Even the ones that employ you?

As stated by several people, you CAN NOT open a bank account for another person. Oh and YES romanians do have a bad reputation in the UK, you earnt it all by yourselves!