Life in the UK for some Poles (sad article)

what the fuk are you blathering on about?

speak english you kuhnt or fuk off back to your own cuntry

That's a bit strong, isn't it. There are a lot of Polish citizens in the UK who are doing well for themselves

Why you said : How about the polish who have a good live in the UK?

I haven't seen any polish having a good life in the UK apart from being treated with NO respect. And for being step on their faces.

It is well known that the English think of polish ... as (rubish), as slaves who went to the UK to serve them for little pennies. That is the only reason why the UK Government has opened the doors to POLISH, with the purpose and intention of make Polish work like PIGS, living in a shared accomodations in the ****!.

Polish women are considered objects for the sexual trade.. and polish men are considered "savages" who could not make it in Poland and therefore have to travel to the UK in desperation to get money.

Come on Polish (all Poland) HAVE SOME DIGNITY!! and stop going to the UK and stay in Poland trying to work for the good progress and happiness of POLAND!

I am sorry but the idea behind being a guest worker is exactely that if you look at the history of guest workers all over the world. It is always the richer country employing cheap cheap labour for economic reasons and supplying some negative propaganda about the workers, when the native citizens object their presence. I am talking about the worst case scenario. I guess it varies, depending on the person. There are disastrous and there are some success stories.

If people had jobs in Poland and the economy was good, Poles would not be going abraod. Who can efford the Polish prices? There are some regions in Poland that have been supporting themsleves from working abraod for years and you know it very well. If you are Polish, I don't need to mention them to you.

That has been going on for generations. Do I need to remind you of poeple going to America to work in mines at the beginnin of the century????

PS. I had a thread somewhere about the fact that export labour is becoming the biggest commodity in the near future. There are other reasons for the labour migration, but I am too lazy to go on about it.

Maybe the Polish government should think about creating incentives for people to open their own interests/firms (działalnośći). After all, many businesses operate under such fundamental principles.

then obviously you havent` seen all the poles in the uk. i know quite a few (including myself) who lead good lives, have been here for a long time, paid their dues an now they`ve got what they deserve. climb up, not down, the ladder.


oh stop moaning and generalising! sicknening me.


say what???? come back to poland, work for some greedy private business owner who will pay you less than a minimum wage, ask you to work saturdays without paying, threatening you that if you tell anyone, he`ll fire you, and when you get pregnant kick you right out and leave you with nothing??? LOL you`re funny.

at least in here, employers comply with the rules (vast majority of the time) instead of finding ways to get around things so that they can get more money. i`d rather work for them.

Iam back in Poland.

If you are from a minority who probably made better money in the UK... (have you really? been accepted by the english society??......

The point is... whatever happens... the fact of assuming the position of a second class citizen in the UK... is worst than having a less better job in Poland.. at least here I will try and will be POLISH.. have a more dignified life, than being in the UK and be considered (****) because that is the real situation... and it is obvious... the ENGLISH does not want us in the UK.. and the British Government do not care.. about this problem...(the LABOUR UK government group) does not give a monkey anymore about the complains of their own english country, so all the majority of english citizens (workers) they hate every single polish that goes there for an opportunity..

At the end of the day where is the earn? there?... to be treated as a ****, without respect or dignity..

I think is time that POLISH we stand for ourselves and be PROUD and not let anyone try to buy us with stupid job proposals.. try better for POLAND and for its future.. and the future of the polish children and generations.

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Only if Poland is part of the UK now...

I'll give u a megaphone 4 ur birthday Zeus :)

SPOT ON!
It is frightening to what degree people are becoming reaquainted with the notion of being "nomadic."

Regarding the other b.s. on this thread, it is rather depressing to read so many people willing to blame everyone else for their life's problems while simultaneously excusing any wrong doings and/or mistakes made by anyone sharing common nationality or "genes" (for lack of a better word). Newsflash for you nerds: We are individuals- not spokespeople for our country or ethnicity of origin.


Great idea. Hey everyone, go walk around and just be PROUD and POLISH and when you add it all up you'll get a grand total of your dick in your hand- Great advice!

It takes 2 to tango Zeus. Yeah, we have the gratitude to offer job contracts to Poles and u guys have the stupidity to accept ****** deals. U don't have to accept contracts u know.

if you pay peanuts you get monkies and if youre a monkey you are happy to work for peanuts.

the simple fact of the matter is that noone forced the polish to come to the uk and work for a pittance.

the simple fact of the matter is that the polish flocked in their hundreds of thousands to come and work at the bottom end of the employment market

if you stopped 'buying' stupid job proposals people would stop 'selling' them to you.

why do you have such difficulty understanding this?

In a nutshell, beautifully put.

youtube.com/watch?v=-j3CzqcD2bk&feature=related, this guy is a tosser but what he says is funny

Got a job? If so is it better paid and do people treat you better?

I'm interested to know because what Incubus said about the long working hours, unpaid weekend work, and w@nker bosses sounds exactly like the experience of every Polish person in Poland that I speak to. But hey, at least they're doing it whilst being proud to be Polish.

Yeah Zeus, what's ur new job?

yeah, if you know are going to be treated like sh*t anyway but you wanna be a patriot, let your natives do it to ya! although i suppose that in zeus's situation it would've been better if he let the Brits insult him in Uk cos at least he wouldn't understand half of the things they were saying to him ;)

I think this is a relevant thread now. Poles will be squeezed, I regret to say for some, by the protesting Brits.

They have a choice and can go back if they wish.

No one forced them to come here and no one is forcing them to stay.

I understand that but they may feel like they are being squeezed and pressed.

I'm sure that many British people felt the same when the great iron doors of the EU were flung open with no concern for the future.

Well, according to political theory, we elected the government which signed the treaty. We have to deal with it.

I agree and I don't want to go over old ground (again!), but other EU countries don't seem to be having such problems with numbers etc, so why can't the UK just adopt the same approach ?

Surely it's not too late ?!

You're in a similar situation Seanus as you are working in Poland. Same as the Polish people working in Uk?

The golden notion is, da da, choice!! We have the right to reverse course but we won't. It has been swept under the carpet. MP's don't wanna know.

I don't get your point, Lir. What do you mean?

I thought the refinery dispute was because the French owned refinery gave the contract for the new build to an Italian Company who will be using Italian and Portugese workers , not because they are cheaper but because they ate better skilled.

But surely with everything that is happening: recession, people going on strike because of foreign workers, a general election looming.......they will have to do something.

I don't get how they can ignore this for much longer.

Much will depend on the media's spin doctors and their meddling. If the foreigners are gonna be made the scapegoats, then it doesn't look so rosy.

What I meant Seanus , was I wondered what reaction. ( if any ) do you get from. Polish people as you are an immigrant in Poland? Would be interesting to hear your experience in this area ?

The same as when Scottish guys were beating up Polish guys out of cowardice in my country, none. Maybe cuz I keep a low profile outside of teaching. I dare say, were I to work in a bigger city, that I could become a target for revenge and retribution.

The Scots still have a favourable image here. Isolated incidents won't change that.

I guess time will tell, but the more that gets swept under the carpet, the bigger the mound of dirt we have to try and crawl over.

I agree. Doing what China does and whipping out the broom helps no-one in the long term. The problem is, as ever, opening the floodgates and facing the deluge.