Foreigners: Please don't buy the English Land!

Maybe that wont be me or people like me but I am sure that it wont be people like you either.

Personally i don't feel guilty and i'm sorry for my jokes but really its a no topic, your trying to lay blame on somebody else apart from Poland, stop doing that, its not the Brits fault or the US's fault. If Poland could stand on its own two feet then the foreign investors, or in your view invaders wouldn't be damaging your economy.

If i'm been rude i'm sorry but its about time you faced facts, ITS NOT ANYBODY ELSE'S FAULT. I sympathise with Poland and the problems it has like i sympathise with all nations that have problems.

i imagine i have contributed more to polish employment and the economy in the last 6 months than you have, ever

Yes that is the right word :).

youre only fooling yourself ola

Yes we think different than you because we refuse to be your modern economic slaves, your, foreign banks and foreign investments funds. We refuse to work for 1200 zloty and smile in the same time while rich countries are laughing us off.

youre only kidding yourself ola

What are doing talking to Ola? shouldn't you be with Ranj?

come on now ***** cat put those claws away :)

see my last thread for logical explanation

Oh I can not agree with that :). But as you all say leave the past go forward so I am trying to think out what to do to make my country better and what is wrong right now, I am focused on the present right now and see partly the blame on foreign investors and their present actions that my country is going to the wrong direction with the property market. I say part of the blame of course.

Ola, You are a member of the European Union just like me and every other citizen who belongs to a country which is part of the EU.

You are deluding yourself with your antiquated views......

Foreign investment in a country is to be welcomed. It allows the country to grow and prosper........I can give you an economics lesson if you want one.

Poland isn't going in the wrong direction, it's on the right tracks.

Ola I hear what you are saying (to a certain degree) but dont you think that people in the UK have problems getting on the property ladder, its not as easy as you think for everyone here...In fact its quite difficult and unless you bought a few years ago or mummy and daddy have a spare 20K hanging about, most people have little chance of owning a one bed flat let alone a house.

I'm sorry Ola i still can't believe that foreign investors are to blame.

What is strange for me is the Polish and their views on Poland, only those however who have left. A number of my Polish friends have said to me things like 'Poland is much better than England' 'It wouldn't happen like that in Poland' so i simply ask them 'so why have you come to the UK if Poland is so great??' and 'What is so great about Poland'

Not that i dislike Poland because i do, i think there are some beautiful places in Poland and Polish people are generally very nice, but Poland is not 'Great' its not a super power, it is not a main contributer to the EU etc etc. I hope you or anybody dosen't take my comments out of context and believe that i have something against Poland because i do not. I think that people who know me from here will take my comments for what they are, a point of view and a simple question.

Some people dont see the bigger picture and only see what affects them LIR, its called blinkered but its quite common I hear.

It is even worse in Poland right now. Your people problems with buying flat do not mean that you have to rape my country and ruin its people. Less property in Poland for polish people, more polish people in UK. Yes it works exactly like that.

Yeah , it is a shame, I agree with you. Mind you I remeber when the UK joined the EU, weren't we all against it too.........expect it's something a bit similar here as well......

Hi Amathyst , how did your new job work out ?

what a ridiculous comment Ola, were not raping your country or stopping its growth you are deluded you need to look closer to home my dear

Ok maybe that is too strong word. Speculate put in that place.

With respect Ola, only in your head :(

Please, take some time to look at the bigger picture. Your personal wealth will increase as Poland prospers, won't happen overnight but it will happen.

You know what I tried to be understanding and not have go but I see there is no real point, obviously I live in the land of milk and honey and all is rosey in the garden! If people her age have issues with progress what hope is there for Poland!


I love that wording :D

It must be much better than my country anyway because 2 millions of my compatriots moved there in recent 3 years. I believe in numbers, not words. Why are you trying to abuse me if you dont agree with me? Can you not discuss?

Ola's is a minority viewpoint. But she is entitled to it. as we all are entitled to our views.


Thank you :)

I am not in minority, trust me, I know what people say in my country, I live here.

So what percentage of people in your age bracket agree with you then Ola ? Or are you taking the viewpoint of a couple of friends and assuming that all think in the same way as yourself ?


what ? to the UK ? when ?

About 2 millions who left the country ;). Try to understand that situation in Poland in unemployment and property market is bad (or ever very bad) especially for Polish young people who are no happy with that and choose another country to live, where life is easier. Almost everyone say that speculations ruined property marked in the country, foreign and domestic speculations.


After May 2004, oficially there are 600.000 but unoficially it is about 2 millions, noone knows though the exact number.

People are more unhappy with the goverment and their lack of understanding of how Polish people think or what Polish people want. You cannot blame the UK for this, blame your own countrymen for voting for them because if your government feels that it is more important to hunt down ageing sympathisers than to inject the money in to your health service (and stop doctors stricking) then its your fault not mine!

Yes, ours too


Here I can not agree again. Foreign speculators are partly to blame.

To be fair to you Ola you do stick to your guns, i like that, in fact i also like your passion for your country and wanting to find the answers to the problems Poland is experiencing at the moment.

But really you just can't blame foreigners for Poland problems. Put it this way, you say that the foreign investors are doing bad for Poland, well this is because Poland has landed itself into its current situation.

The people of Poland need to work together instead of leaving, that is just my personal opinion and i'm not trying to make you angry its just a suggestion.

See Tornado's post below. He understands. :)


Of course, as long as they keep their hands off Snowdonia. ;) :D


The difference is, Poles who live and work here don't have to wait three years. Explain why Poland should be treated differently.


I've just been priced out of my neighbourhood.

To pay a similar rent, I have no choice but to move 10 miles away... while my current neighbourhood fills up with Poles who might only have been at Etudia Terminal waiting for a cheap one-way flight a few weeks ago. But you don't hear me saying "hands off our land, stop taking our flats near my workplace, new immigrant Poles go home". Because when my parents came over, they had to start out in an inner-city dump like I live in now, and the new immigrants are doing the same.

But things have changed - I bettered myself, lost it all through divorce, and now I'm building myself back up again. I'm being priced out of the country I was born in, but am possibly being priced into the country my parents came from. A bizarre situation indeed, but it's typical of the capitalist society we now have in Europe. I'm not going to apologise for wanting to buy a 30m2 flat in Poland when Poles are coming over here and are indirectly pricing me out of my estate!

And yes, I do understand that you don't mind people buying property in Poland if they live and work there. But your suggestion that Poland should be a special case, and severe restrictions should be placed on buyers in Poland which do not apply to Poles who buy elsewhere, is quite frankly ridiculous, unenforceable and possibly even illegal under EU law. But that's another thread altogether. :)