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The Changing Face of Scotland - we need more immigrants!


lennyd  
29 Dec 2007 /  #151
these jobs do themselves

british jobs for british workers first surely must be a priority , or a priority of any country to look after its own, no one will never get out of poverty these days with all these poles wages will never rise ever only maybe 10p an hour every year if the government rise the minimum wage , open door immigration is just a recipe for disaster ,always gonna keep low paid workers on the scrap heap
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,149  
29 Dec 2007 /  #152
I see that It's all about the money, so I wonder what should happan when Poland become richer than UK, which is only a matter of time. Will you UFOs like to be pushed around by us ?
Seanus 15 | 19,674  
29 Dec 2007 /  #153
Alex Salmond, SNP MP, seems to think we need more. I watched him speak in Glasgow many years ago and he is a very articulate guy. Record keeping and compiling accurate statistics gets harder when immigrants don't register or work for less than minimum wage but diversity has been appreciated in places like Inverness where they have managed to get jobs as waitresses or hoteliers
Shawn_H  
29 Dec 2007 /  #154
we dont want or need hundreds of thousands of polish cleaners, waiters, shop assistants,

That is so true. Think of all those dissapointed chav's just crying in their beer, "I couldn't get the cleaning job, a Polish guy got the job...."
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,149  
29 Dec 2007 /  #155
I can give a part time cleaning job If anybody is interested...
szkotja2007 27 | 1,498  
29 Dec 2007 /  #156
they have managed to get jobs as waitresses or hoteliers

and Dentists, Doctors, Schoolteachers, Joiners, Tilers, Plasterers etc etc
lennyd  
29 Dec 2007 /  #157
UFO

what is this UFO thing ? poland is a disgrace they will never be a wealthy nation like us this country is packed with pollocks and people are getting well p1ssed , it's only a matter of time before something breaks and we review our position in the EU which hasn't benefited anyone from the uk the EU is just one big joke on the british people , this guy thinks we have heads like ufo's better than poles with big long sculptured eastern european heads looking weird walking round with rucksacks looking like true communists oh and the bobbly eyes they seem to have and massive veins in their heads which look like their going to burst
OP _Sofi_  
29 Dec 2007 /  #158
priority of any country to look after its own

Please...read this link: By having immigrants, the uk is 'looking after it's own.' Immigrants aren't stealing the 'British jobs,' British people simply aren't taking them. Here's one quote I want to highlight:

The minimal effect being had on unemployment as a result of immigration in the UK has disproved the theory that there are a finite number of jobs in the labour market and that the immigrant's gain is the Brits' loss.

UFOs

ok - what do you mean?

we have heads like ufo's better than poles with big long sculptured eastern european heads looking weird walking round with rucksacks looking like true communists

haha where the hell do you live? I've never seen anyone like that before...

Lennyd, you look familiar...I could swear I'd seen (very recently) an entire thread all about you.
Seanus 15 | 19,674  
29 Dec 2007 /  #159
Why are Poland a disgrace because they are not wealthy? America was one of the wealthiest countries in the world and look how it misspent its wealth on evil. Granted, Norway, Sweden and Switzerland are good examples, being amongst the world's wealthiest countries, but that doesn't make Poland a shambles.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,149  
29 Dec 2007 /  #160
poland is a disgrace they will never be a wealthy nation like us

We are better educated, more creatice, work harder, so It's only a matter of time when we become richer than you.
Seanus 15 | 19,674  
29 Dec 2007 /  #161
Again, no offence Greg but being better educated, more creative and working harder doesn't guarantee wealth. Professors are educated but not always loaded, scientists are creative but often get paid little and manual labourers work hard, poorly paid too. The problem lies with the Polish govt in increasing salaries
szkotja2007 27 | 1,498  
29 Dec 2007 /  #162
poland is a disgrace they will never be a wealthy nation like us this country

lennyd - read the title of the thread - do you mean Scotland ?
Seanus 15 | 19,674  
29 Dec 2007 /  #163
Scotland is wealthy by most standards, we have some great industries. I agree with szkotja24, please recognise that the thread is about Scotland as we are a separate (not independent) country
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,149  
29 Dec 2007 /  #164
but being better educated, more creative and working harder doesn't guarantee wealth.

Of course It doesn't guarantee anything, It's true only in 90% of cases...
Seanus 15 | 19,674  
29 Dec 2007 /  #165
What is ur interpretation of wealthy Greg?
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,149  
29 Dec 2007 /  #166
The most obvious one...
Seanus 15 | 19,674  
29 Dec 2007 /  #167
Wealth is a relative thing, it depends on ur classification systeminter alia. People who do PhD's (doctorates) are often not taken on by companies out of fear or a perception that they lack 'real world' experience. They often don't get a chance to be 'wealthy'. Also, let's assume that wealth is ur goal. Talking about it bores people and will lose u friends so u r just satisfying urself and like-minded wealth-obsessed individuals by talking about it. I know many people who went to Uni, dropped out but are now very wealthy. It is widely known that graduates often do jobs not befitting of their education and unrelated. Becoming wealthy is often an art, perfected by a few and not 90% or anything like it.
lesser 4 | 1,311  
29 Dec 2007 /  #168
The problem lies with the Polish govt in increasing salaries

I'm quite sure that if we reject possibility of eventual military invasions, the only way how Poland could not overtake so called "west" is that our bribed politicians would move more towards western standards of economic mindset. Government do this, goverment do that.
PolskaDoll 28 | 2,099  
29 Dec 2007 /  #169
People who do PhD's (doctorates) are often not taken on by companies out of fear or a perception that they lack 'real world' experience

This is most certainly true. Noticable in adverts for high paid jobs where it says "experience is a must".

IT is a good job to get into in Scotland as there is a lacking of IT skilled people.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,149  
29 Dec 2007 /  #170
I know many people

But we are talking about countries, not individuals.
Seanus 15 | 19,674  
29 Dec 2007 /  #171
Exactly, technikum qualified people can fill in some of those gaps. They possess the required IT skills. I see Greg hasn't written back, hehehe. Obviously, he's brewing up sth through research, taking it very seriously
noimmigration  
29 Dec 2007 /  #172
IT is a good job to get into in Scotland as there is a lacking of IT skilled people.

there are thousands of it graduates leaving schools, colleges and universities every year. Those positions will be filled by scots.

The real shortage of skills are medical profiles, such as dentistry, doctors and nurses
PolskaDoll 28 | 2,099  
29 Dec 2007 /  #173
there are thousands of it graduates leaving schools, colleges and universities every year. Those positions will be filled by scots.

If that were true...these posts wouldn't be needing to be filled at all. As with these ones...

The real shortage of skills are medical profiles, such as dentistry, doctors and nurses

When will you get the point that there are not enough Scottish people to do these jobs. Hence the title of the thread!
isthatu 3 | 1,164  
29 Dec 2007 /  #174
this country is packed with pollocks

its a very straight forward operation to remove them and you will find your breathing improves no end.......oh,sorry,you meant Poles,right,thought you meant Britain had caught a bad E N T condition....

so called "west"

er,look on a map,we are west........no so called about it.
lesser 4 | 1,311  
29 Dec 2007 /  #175
er,look on a map,we are west........no so called about it.

Who are "we"?
Seanus 15 | 19,674  
29 Dec 2007 /  #176
Yes Greg, but individuals live in countries in u hadn't already noticed. Not space capsules
PolskaDoll 28 | 2,099  
14 Mar 2008 /  #177
The UK's equality watchdog has suggested immigration policy should be "tilted" to help Scotland acquire the skills it needs

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7295602.stm
Seanus 15 | 19,674  
15 Mar 2008 /  #178
Good article. Migrants contributing towards the prosperity of the country is what we want. Poland should be encouraging potential migrants here to research their options b4 leaving for Scottish shores. Finding a job is a job in itself for some. Scotland is not the land of milk and honey.

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