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700 are arriving every day from Eastern Europe into Britain


daffy 23 | 1,508  
2 Jun 2007 /  #31
Michal, it is not just an opinion of mine. It is backed by the economic history and supported by migration figures throughout history.

The UK will be like any other country that experiences/d economic prosperity.
Michal - | 1,865  
9 Jun 2007 /  #32
The trouble is that the Poles never think long term, employers will take on these people on an hourly basis without the need for pensions and sick pay and we end up with a back-street cheap labour force. The Poles will jump at the chance to 'make a quick buck'. I have just come back from France yet I have not noticed many Polish there working but maybe I was in the wrong area.
daffy 23 | 1,508  
9 Jun 2007 /  #33
That could be because France did not open its border to the A10 to work like the UK & IRE
Varsovian 92 | 634  
11 Jun 2007 /  #34
What I like is that Poles can work in the UK and claim child support for children left behind in Poland. A PLN 5000 present annually.

Soon, there will be large numbers of Poles who are unemployed and drawing benefit in the UK while working in the black economy and claiming child benefit. That would be perfect for the restaurant trade and construction industry too.
Decorator 4 | 291  
11 Jun 2007 /  #35
Ahhh the construction industry yes !!!
away guy 10 | 343  
11 Jun 2007 /  #36
I dont care where people prefer to stay as long as it all legally , its not the Poles fault that they became EU , so if the have a better life in UK then so it must be.Why are we hating all the hard working EU citizens , we should rather worry about all the illegal immigrants in UK and in Europe thats just wrong some places in UK and Europe look like " Little India or Little Africa" with all the illegal people !
Crow 139 | 8,291  
11 Jun 2007 /  #37
I see many more Slavs assimilated in time which is in front of us.

It would be much batter that Slavs unite and crete batter conditions for living in their world, according to their heritage- in balance with nature.
Michal - | 1,865  
11 Jun 2007 /  #38
e large numbers of Poles who are unemployed and drawing benefit in the UK while working in the black economy and claiming child benefit. That would be perfect for the restaurant trade and construction

What is even worse, in many of these cases the people in question are not even Polish but are travelling on false passports and are simply pretending to be Polish.
goldie - | 37  
11 Jun 2007 /  #39
I live in a rural area, we have a lot of Polish people working on the land. When I do my shopping at the local supermarket there are lots of Poles spending their money. This indicates that they are contributing to the economy, the supermarkets make money , pay for their staff, purchase goods from suppliers, keeping english people in work!!

Maybe some poles are taking benefits, but in rural areas they provide necessary labour, live on site; therefore not taking up housing. The purchasing power of the Polish should not be ignored. It seems that these rural workers put in more than they take out. As to whether they settle in the area or are just seasonal workers, I do not know. Maybe I will ask next time I bump into a Polish person.
Kekesi  
11 Jun 2007 /  #40
"I had become foreigner in the place I had always called home"....what is home?a place where U have born or place where Ur heart is?...In fact home for all of us is that small blue planet which we don't respect at all:)...
Michal - | 1,865  
12 Jun 2007 /  #41
benefits, but in rural areas they provide necessary labour, live on site; therefore not

Actually, you are incorrect. Recent studies show that these workers contribute almost nothing to the British economy for a long and complicated set of reasons.
daffy 23 | 1,508  
12 Jun 2007 /  #42
can you give the back up to this?
shopgirl 6 | 928  
12 Jun 2007 /  #43
npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=10767136

This is a link to NPR radio article called "Debunking Global Migration Myths".

It basically says that there aren't that many more people moving (still small percent vs. overall population) but it seems like more because there are more people on the planet.

I was surprized at that...
goldie - | 37  
12 Jun 2007 /  #44
Quoting: goldie
benefits, but in rural areas they provide necessary labour, live on site; therefore not

Such as... ? maybe you are talking inner city. what is so bad about people working in foreign countries? You simply cannot ignore the financial contribution some Polish make, surely you are stereotyping?
Michal - | 1,865  
12 Jun 2007 /  #45
No, not really. They come here with their children and they need educating for free. Then they are ill. They go to the doctor and get medicines for free. It costs us more to employ them than they contribute.
polishmancan 8 | 21  
16 Jun 2007 /  #46
I find it ironic that many countries like Britain, Scotland and others in and around the UK have many of the same problems with Poles and other Eastern European immigrants that we do here in the U.S. with Latinos. Believe me, thank yourselves each day you don't have that problem. At least E. Europeans are still Western in philosophy.

Polish immigrants swell Scotland's new baby boom
news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=935812007
FISZ 24 | 2,116  
16 Jun 2007 /  #47
I live in the US and have no problems with Mexicans. They take the less desirable jobs and help our farmers out immensely. I do however have a problem with the Europeans coming here and taking over MY peoples land :P

no really, I'm over it :)
MZOLA  
16 Jun 2007 /  #48
can you give the back up to this?

What do they contribute to society? Overcrowding buses, taking jobs away from citizens, creating a housing shortage, draining the benefit system, calling their families from Poland and increasing the population, leaving work after 12 months and claiming benefit and having a child so you can get priority housing? yep if you call that contribution to society then you will see blue flying pigs!!
FISZ 24 | 2,116  
16 Jun 2007 /  #49
yep if you call that contribution to society then you will see blue flying pigs!!

Do they buy things?

Overcrowding busses

They pay to ride the bus.

taking jobs away from citizens

Right out from under them huh? Wow those Polish sure are tricky ;)
daffy 23 | 1,508  
17 Jun 2007 /  #50
MZOLA

Such a short sighted statement. You forget the addition provided of doing the jobs many of us would not want to do or would not choose to do which is a huge asset to the economey.

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