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"Ryanair cuts 11 routes to Poland"


PolskaDoll 28 | 2,104  
9 Feb 2009 /  #1
Yes, 11 routes telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/4571090/Ryanair-cuts-11-routes-to-Poland.html - from the UK to Poland are cancelled. I think it's time to purchase a boat...

Ryanair has become the latest airline to reduce its services to Poland, after it confirmed today that it is cutting 11 of its routes from March.

The cancelled services include those from Bristol, Birmingham, Bournemouth, East Midlands, Luton and Liverpool.

The airline, which has defied the downturn by announcing 23 new routes from the UK this year, blames the "unacceptable increase in navigation charges" in Poland for the decision.

Ryanair's cancelled routes

Bristol-Szczecin

Bristol-Gdansk

Bristol-Katowice

Birmingham-Szczecin

Liverpool-Lodz

Liverpool-Szczecin

Liverpool-Gdansk

East Midlands-Lodz

East Midlands-Poznan

London Luton-Szczecin

Bournemouth-Wroclaw

LondonChick 31 | 1,133  
9 Feb 2009 /  #2
Thanks for posting this. Very sad news - especially for Szczecin, which is one of my favourite cities in Poland :(
ezs 2 | 22  
9 Feb 2009 /  #3
This makes me more nervous about my career path. :S
OP PolskaDoll 28 | 2,104  
9 Feb 2009 /  #4
It is very sad news. Pretty soon we'll be back to only one or two operators offering flights to Poland at very high prices. That's not good at all.
time means 5 | 1,309  
9 Feb 2009 /  #5
how much have the navigation charges gone up?
OP PolskaDoll 28 | 2,104  
9 Feb 2009 /  #6
I don't know. What should they be in the first place?

It appears they've gone UP in Poland and that is why they are cutting the flights to Poland (yet seem to be opening up new routes elsewhere).
time means 5 | 1,309  
9 Feb 2009 /  #7
i have no idea. i remember reading some time back that ryan air and i think wizz were complaining of a proposed increase.
Harry  
10 Feb 2009 /  #8
As far as I understand the fees have gone up by 1000% and are now at a level which makes the lo-cost model unworkable for Poland. It's very suspicious that this action is only taken after LOT's lo-cost operation went under.
cjjc 29 | 408  
10 Feb 2009 /  #9
Liverpool-Lodz

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

Let me rephrase that:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wildrover 98 | 4,451  
10 Feb 2009 /  #10
Liverpool-Gdansk

I second that........NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
McCoy 27 | 1,269  
10 Feb 2009 /  #11
irish revenge
time means 5 | 1,309  
11 Feb 2009 /  #12
As far as I understand the fees have gone up by 1000% and are now at a level which makes the lo-cost model unworkable for Poland. It's very suspicious that this action is only taken after LOT's lo-cost operation went under.

yes just read the same, a 1000% is quite a rise and a very good point about lot.

wildrover dsa to gdansk is still going.
szarlotka 8 | 2,208  
11 Feb 2009 /  #13
Look on the bright side. If low cost airlines all fail miserably they will be able to turn the bloody awful Etiuda terminal at Warsaw into a Garden Centre or a skating rink or something of that ilk.
Neil63 6 | 57  
11 Feb 2009 /  #14
Thread attached on merging:
RYAN AIR CUT FLIGHT TO POLAND

I have just heard that they are stopping flights to Lodz..... does anyone know if this permanent or temporary ?
wildrover 98 | 4,451  
12 Feb 2009 /  #15
dsa to gdansk is still going.

DSA...?.....where is that then......?

permanent or temporary ?

I suspect its permanent....thats unless the airport fees go down a hell of a lot....check out wizz air they seem to be still running a service to Lodz...
Neil63 6 | 57  
12 Feb 2009 /  #16
Flights to Lodz finish in October..... there is nothing else going from the UK to Lodz now or later. This is going to be a big problem for businesses that have relocated there and for those who want to come to the UK for work........ I have to be honest I hate Ryanair, if you have ever flown with them they really crank the charges up if you go over the 15KG weight limit and the size of the flight bag specified you take on the plane is smaller than the industry standard.... which means in theory I can't even take my lap top on board. One cup of coffee and and a sandwich £7.00 - yeah very low cost. I just hope an alterantive carrier steps in.
Harry  
12 Feb 2009 /  #17
irish revenge

More like Polish stupidity. The idea of the 1000% rise in prices (by a state owned agency) is clearly to drive out the cheap operators and thus take financial pressure off LOT (which, by an amazing coincidence, also state-owned) by forcing more people to fly on LOT. Unfortunately the government haven't factored in the damage that will be done to the economy by the number of tourists going down hugely because people will just fly to the places which cheap flights do go to. Most of the Polish people who used cheap airlines will just go back to travelling by bus.
cjjc 29 | 408  
12 Feb 2009 /  #18
people who used cheap airlines will just go back to travelling by bus.

So true.

Unfortunately I don't really want to spend 26hours on a bus, but hey, what do I know, I'm only spending thousands of PLN there.
LondonChick 31 | 1,133  
12 Feb 2009 /  #19
I actually quite like Ryan Air - they had really made Poland much more accessable. Everyone grips about them, but hey - you get what you pay for.

I've flown with LOT too, and they're fine as an airline, however their flights are all from Heathrow, which is a bit of a schlep for me. Standsted is more convenient for me, as I live in East London.

I was planning on taking my mum to Kolobrzeg this Summer - she lives near Bristol, so it would have been great for her to get a flight from Bristol to Szczecin and I'd meet here there. Back to the drawing board now...
cjjc 29 | 408  
12 Feb 2009 /  #20
which is a bit of a schlep for me. Standsted is more convenient for me, as I live in East London.

Don't worry! I live in Cumbria! with no more flights from Liverpool, London is quite a hike!
szarlotka 8 | 2,208  
12 Feb 2009 /  #21
Aha, a gap in the market emerges....

Welcome to Szarlotka Airways.

Every fourth weekend throughout the year Szarlotka Airways is proud to fly you as far into Poland as the fuel gets us. An as exclusive ailine we can only take three passengers at at time, or two if you have more than hand luggage. A full executive on board service is offered, including a galss of warm orange juice, a bacon butty and your own in-flight ear muffs to drown out the roar of the mighty Cessna's engine. Preference will be given to full fare paying passengers who can also read maps.
sausage 19 | 777  
12 Feb 2009 /  #22
I'm still mourning the death of Central Wings. A chicken kanapkÄ™ and an iced tea for under £3. BA have irked me too by changing their routes from Gatwick to Heathrow.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808  
12 Feb 2009 /  #23
Szarlotka Airways

Is this the type of airlines that you check yourself in, strip searched yourself, abused yourself in a customs officers military uniform, take the word "terminal" literally, you have to bring your own chair, you must be able to fly the plane and even have to provide the vehicle?.

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It does strike me, that for all the moaning about Ryan's bad service and all the corners cut, we like it .
The low cost gives us the right to complain! ha ha ha
szarlotka 8 | 2,208  
12 Feb 2009 /  #24
Is this the type of airlines that you check yourself in, strip searched yourself, abused yourself in a customs officers military uniform, take the word "terminal" literally, you have to bring your own chair, you must be able to fly the plane and even have to provide the vehicle?.

In a word yes. Oh and the Captain is a bit rusty at landings.....
spiritus 69 | 666  
12 Feb 2009 /  #25
I hope Warsaw doesn't follow suit !!!

shephard.co.uk/news/1055/
szarlotka 8 | 2,208  
12 Feb 2009 /  #26
I hope Warsaw doesn't follow suit !!!

So LOT have friends in high places. Despite my hatred of Etuida terminal the attempt to price out the low cost airlines is shameful and, as the article suggests, counter EU competition policy.
Harry  
12 Feb 2009 /  #27
Here's an amazing co-incidence: as of 1 February 2009 LOT was only the third biggest airline operating out of Poland. In first and second places were Ryanair and Wizz Air, the very two airlines which have been hardest hit by the vast increases in navigation charges and the proposed closure of Warsaw's Etudia terminal!

anna.aero/2009/01/30/ryanair-usurps-lot-as-leading-international-carrier/
LondonChick 31 | 1,133  
12 Feb 2009 /  #28
BA have irked me too by changing their routes from Gatwick to Heathrow.

And they terminated LCY to WAW - a major blow :(
sausage 19 | 777  
12 Feb 2009 /  #29
They are probably all flying out of Terminal 5 now. Not at all convenient!

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