Can I buy a small farm in Poland?

Get a good lawyer in Poland!

found this on expats web site ....12 years close season/ period does not concern the citizens of EU, who are going to be farmers by profession according to the principle of self-employment, if they stayed in Poland legally, without any intermissions, at least 3 years and they rented and personally cultivated the land which ownership they are going to obtain. As it comes to acquiring properties in such provinces like: warmińsko - mazurskie, kujawsko - pomorskie, pomorskie, zachodnio-pomorskie, lubuskie, dolnosląskie, opolskie, wielkopolskie, legal and constant stay should last at least 7 years. Foreigners who fulfill these requirements will be subjected to the procedures appropriate for Polish citizens.(the Polish act of agricultural system 11.04.2003).

Also more information on mamdom.pl....it is possible to get papers drawn up with a notary and translator giving full power of attorney of the property/land. If you farm the land for 3 or 7 years, then it can legally be transferred into your name. Otherwise, you could wait until May 2016 to buy, when prices have risen drastically as all restrictions will be moved. Comments like "Get a good lawyer" not particularly useful, or uplifting, thanks anyway...more useful would be advice on WHERE you can get a good lawyer! Legal advice already taken, but all through a translator, hence the confused state of an otherwise reasonably intelligent mind! Anyone know a good English speaking conveyancing lawyer???


Thankyou!!! We are in Lubuskie...near a quaint little town called Szprotawa, along with 3 horses and 2 Welsh Collies...please email me, phone me, drive down and see me, meet me half way, text me, write to me....Feeling a bit "marooned" ....can you tell??? But loving the life style anyway...

yes, apologies for the flippant comment. Hopefully I can make amends - I know a good general lawyer here in Krakow who speaks good English who has dealt with all my property related affairs. He's not cheap but I can email you his details if that would help.

Thanks...would very much appreciate contact details...expensive is losing your new home because you didn't know the rules of the game! Clear, accurate information is invaluable!

Hi there , managed to find your town on the map , you are not so far away from Zagan , which of course is famous for being the place that the film " the great escape " was about , yes folks it was a true story....The nearest i have been to your place was a trip to Glowgow to attend the opening of a new club house for a chapter of the Polish motorcycle club i am a member of....I will send you a pm with my email address on....catch you soon....Jan...ps...just sent you an email...

Hi, I'm in Malopolskie, near Tarnow. I'm an expat who owns 2 farms in the Carpathian foothills. Let's meet in person and talk about this topic over some good coffee and cakes! This is a very interesting topic indeed.

For your information, the last time I purchased arable land for my farm here, 1 hectare, my notary checked the following before I was able to sign off on the deal:

1) If you are a 'farmer"

Definition of 'farmer'" - individual that either (a) owned a farm and has relevant farming experience for at least 5 years or more, or (b) has a formal education in farming, along with some practical experience.

2) Once the above was verified, the AWRSP (Agencja Wlasnosci Rolnej Skarbu Panstwa) located in Opole had to first approve the sale in writing, taking about 1 month to do so, This agency checks ensures that a fair bidding and selling process occurs, with priority given to farmers that own land near the land put up for sale. Also, if a farmer should bid higher than my offer, then that farmer has the right to purchase. This was information provided to me by my notary public.

Does this include leasing a farm and working the land in Poland? If so will I be able to purchase further land after working the land here for 5 years? Or will I have to wait 7 years to transfer the farm to my own name, then a further 5 years after I officially "own" it? Crucial, as we were negotiating to buy a further few hectares here! Perhaps we will be able to lease-purchase this as well??


I need no further incentive!! Things a bit tricky my end at the moment...Flying "home" for Christmas, property sales to complete in UK, husband stranded in Wales....but will definitely be in touch!! Will I need to bring my own cakes??

Yes, I believe it does. Leasing a farm and working the land is the same as owning the farm in this context.


Here is where it might get tricky. I was able to get Polish citizenship back in 1998, so that made the buying process much easier for me. If you aren't a citizen of Poland and do not hold a Polish passport and Dowod Osobisty, this may be where the 'foreigner' status kicks in along with the 7 year or longer time period for actually purchasing and owning the property. To be sure, this latter question would be better answered by a real estate attorney or specialist. To avoid high attorney costs, I recommend you directly contact the AWRSP (Agencja Wlasnosci Rolnej Skarbu Panstwa), if that agency hasn't been replaced by another one yet, or speak to a good Notary. Notaries are updated with these laws because they are the ones that ultimately must realize the final paperwork for you via the courts and property register.


A pack of "Delicja" would be fine! :-)

Thanks for the help...I will take a trip to the local notary ...at the moment I can just about afford the cake, but the lawyer will have to wait until my fairy godmother calls around!

Fortunately I have a good friend here who is fluent in both Polish and English, so a visit to the notary should be reasonably simple.....Famous last words???

I would be interested in hearing from any of you who have bought farms in Poland for a possible article in the New Warsaw Express. PM me if you're interested in sharing your experiences.

Thanks,
Simon

Check this link, may be of interest

.ww.property.za.pl

Not really - where is the moderator - this is just an advertisement for (your?) land. Regognise the text though - staight off Mamdom? - Do they know?

there is reference to them on one of the site's pages

but on the point of advertising, you do seem to manage slipping mamdom into most of your posts...

Im sick of Mamdom, very imformative but they really know how to charge the client.

Can't help it - I'm a bit of a fan! Pretty much everything I have done in Poland has been through them or because of them and a hell of a lot easier than other routes I tried. Seriously though you will find my posts have links to only useful stuff (in my opinion) including PMR publications, etc.


My time is more valuable than what they charge me. Nothing in this world is for free Wroclaw Boy. It'll either cost you pounds or time. If you have the latter don't pay the former. Personally I prefer to put my feet up and enjoy a bottle of wine than learn what the specialists do. That's also why I hire a solicitor to check legal documents rather than try and learn law.

Mamdom charge 920 PLN / m2 for a budget fit out, quotes from professional companies in Wroclaw start at 550 PLN / m2. Took me about five minutes to research that little money saver.

Mamdom's (budget fit out) price for a 70 m2 apartment = 64,400
Local company 38,500

Total saving 25,900 PLN

Hello Sir ,
we are a company from Warsaw and could find you such farm nut inform us pls where in which region of Poland you dream to live.

Best regards
Joland Co Ltd
Warsaw/Poland
Phone+48 22 449 22 12

If you are a company from Warsaw and you are registered in Poland then you will not have Ltd in your company name rather "zo.o"

Joland & Co, u might fool the entire forum but u certainly wont fool the ever vigilant ukpolska :)

PJ