Poland- Visa Waiver Program

Well, we don't have any storks flying around here with babies, but as a zoologist myself, I do have a pair of emu that flew over from Australia.

On a plane.


FISZ!!!!!! I need your help!! THIS IS URGENT!!!!!!!!!
How did you do it and how long did it take????
They just refused my BF a tourist visa. What is the next step??
Please get back to me ASAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

rafit,
A few kilometers queues are not visible in Poland only. I saw queues in front of American Embassies in Ecuador, China, etc.

As far as "special relationship between 2 nations" is concerned, Poland is not very special or important nation to the US. My impression, US treats Poland like a bustard child. :)

Well, as we speak of today we are the most pro-American country in Europe, after the UK we are also the second most important US ally on this continent - in long term it would be quite unwise from the US to continue treating us this way.

yes that's a big advantage i agree but as my passion is birwatching(birds with feathers!) it would be interesting to go one day to the new world and see a few of your total 1500 species of birds in america(compared to europes 650 species it is quite a lot)

Rafik, Are you proper birdwatcher with binoculars?

I quite like birds especially since I bought my 2 little canaries.:)

LOL LOL LOL

Please excuse me, I am not being facetious. Your above statement is funny.

Ja jestem Polakiem. Taka jest prawda. :(
US treats Poland like a bustard child.

I`m not denying it - but we`re living in times of ever growing anti-Americanism. In Europe the US is able to count 100% on 3 countries to support it in its actions: the UK, Poland and Romania. Romania compared to Poland is a poor small country with a very small army. The British military also more than two times smaller than our military (though as of now its much more mobile). Beside us - on whom can the US count to support its policies - Italy, with its communist government ?, Spain ?, Germany ?, France ?

What I`m saying is that it would be quite stupid from the US to turn its back on all of its allies, especially becaouse this situation is looking exacly the same way not only in Europe but also in Asia and elseware.

opts - one more thing - you are a Polish-American. There are over 10 million Polish Americans in the US. Why don`t you organize better and make your voice heard a little bit louder - There are many succesful Polish Americans who are doing very much to lobby both the interests of the Polish communities in the US as well as Polish intersts - but still isn`t much, especially if you compare that to the Jewish lobby - if the Jews can do it - then why don`t you ?

I was born in Elk, Poland. :)

OK - but if you have an American citizenship then you are a Polish American - so I think that my question is justified anyway.

If you`ve migrated to the US and you are living there - in your free time or if you are able to also at work - you can make some networking by making contacts with other Polish Americans and create a group of likely minded people who`d help eachother in all possible issues beginning from small personal favours to enchancing your career opportunities. In time you can make the group grow and engage in various projects that would improve your situation in the US as well as benefit Poland in some way.

The Jews are doing it this way - and if I would migrate to the US I would start doing it - So I`m asking - Why don`t you ?

yep.i used to be a very active birdwatcher.i often went to the seaside to ring birds with other birdwatchers.i actually helped others with that as i didn't have a proper licence.now i am just a sunday twitcher:)

what i need to do if i want to study in Poland?
i want to study in graduate program.

I want Poles, as well as Russians, Serbs, Croats, Lithuanians, Lativians, Romanians, etc. to come to America, and in large numbers. Europeans are generally well educated, with skills to offer to society. Unfortunately, many of the Mexicans, El Salvadorians, Guetamalens, etc. entering the country, legally or otherwise, are not educated. Whereas 100 years ago, uneducated immigrants could thrive in low skill jobs, and create wonderful opportunities for their children, today's " low skill " jobs require an education. Even the steel mills near Chicago require many entry-level applicants to have 1-2 years of college, or techinical training. Europeans immigrants often have these skills.

The United States will not stop the flow of people crossing the southern border. They want a better life. However, the U.S. must develop programs to educate these people, so that they can get jobs other than the lowest wage/skill jobs available. The current U.S. immigration policies are designed to stop uneducated, low or no skill workers from having opportunities to contribute to society. Europeans are unfairly caught up in this policy, because they have so much more to offer as a result of their educations.

I dont either if they are actually polish, but remember, someone could be a citizen
of poland with different background who may have only lived in poland a short time
but of another decent..I still think complete background checks should be mandatory
and have to prove all countries they lived in.. not everyone is Polish. only a citizen.

we have to much at stake, and if they have nothing to hide, well then nothing will
be found.. to many terrorists cells roaming and waiting..

you are right iam polish living at the moment in sydney ,,,, day i have applay for visa to usa they have refused in 5 minuts it was bad experienc the officer told me that iam not long enough in australia well now i dont have to worry anymore iam australian citizen can go to usa with no visa for 90 days ,,,,,,,, the power here is to have passport which is include in visa waive program but i still have my polish passport becouse i know poland will be rich country in the future.............

"I dont either if they are actually polish, but remember, someone could be a citizen
of poland with different background who may have only lived in poland a short time..."

Poland has a far more homogenous population to say France, Spain and the UK. You're more likely to find possible terrorists in those countries than in a country which has no previous colonies, is less attractive economically and cuturally to possible nationals who may be ideological terrorists and has a long history of democracy (despite the occupations, partitions and wars). I would gather that its because USA is so popular among the Poles and that Poland is a still a poor country that it's excluded from the waiver club, the same can be said of Greece I guess. If Poland can become an economic

Japan or Germany, the Americans would be happy to include Poland in the waiver program, but at this rate, I doubt this will happen this or the next century, maybe never. :) So maybe Poles should put their children in cram schools and focus heavily on the sciences and technology to try to improve their economic position in the world.

Fish,
With everything going as it is going in US I doubt if US will be able to atract in the future anyone from Poland to come out here. US is doomed to be another latin state/country.

True !! USA is now like Africa and Mexico , the same as UK is now mixed of europeans and India , Pakistan ... hehehehe

Sorry, budy. Not anymore. Maybe as tourists but not for living. USA is not attractive from economical POV.

The US may well scrap the Visa Waver Program completely because of the security risk.

Good for everyone else became the less tourists spend in the US the more they will spend elsewhere.

How so?

The Poverty or ethnic cleansing?


There is no security risk with the PL. We're still fighting for this and not giving up...if you aren't in the US then you won't know this :)

USA is far from looking like Africa or Mexico now, but if you believe our drive by media you'd think that we are. You can see it somewhat in large cities, but it's always been like this. Yes, Latin people still have lots of kids and with education being expensive lots of the second Latin population will do what their parents did. It is different for Polish or any other European immigrants, because only the first generation (and not all of them mind you) work menial jobs. Their kids work side by side with Americans.

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US Visa Waiver Program Expansion - Poland excluded... why??

I was looking at the US Embassy page and notcied that Poland was not included in the Visa Waiver Program. I do not understand why only Poland has been excluded... they all joined EU at the same time ... what is the difference?

Visa Waiver Program Expansion

As of November 17, 2008, nationals of the Czech Republic, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Hungary, the Republic of Korea and the Slovak Republic can travel without a visa for tourist and business travel of 90 days or less provided they meet the following requirements:

As of December 30, 2008, nationals of Malta are able to travel to the U.S. without a visa if they meet the following requirements:

I have been told that a primary reason is the relatively large population of Poland - much larger than the other European countries listed. This apparently is a threat to American workers (I don't necessarily believe this, but it is what I have heard). I came here from Chicago which has a HUGE population of Poles, but I was aware of only a relative handful of Czechs AND Lithuanians living there - not concrete evidence, mind you, but simply a real-life observation.

As an American, I am embarrassed by this apparent oversight. If America can ask Poland for permission to build a defense shield here, why can't we reciprocate a bit and allow Poles to freely travel to the States???

BLS, but also US has a huge number of Korean population and they have now lifted the restrictions to Koreans. Also I am aware that Poles and Koreans were not elligable to apply for a green card.. so I would have thought that if the Koreans were included in the visa waiver program, Poland would be included too. Poland is the ONLY Eastern European country that joined EU in 2004, which was not included in the US visa waiver program. sad..

and Yes, how could US ask Poland for a premission to build a defense shield while they soley excluded Poland from the visa waiver program...

You're right - Poland population: 38 million; S. Korea population: 49 million.

The point is poland economy as to improve..the percentage of refusal rate for a US visa in the embassy in poland has to be reduced too many poles are refused visa to US.there is a fear that US jobs will be treatend just like how the irish are complaining..if poles leave poland and want to return how after a short while then is a sure case..poles leave the country and dont want to return back,,they are like an African country in europe..and sometimes called second class europans...sorry it hurt any feelings..