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Third World War and the role of Poland


Crnogorac 3 | 111  
22 Oct 2007 /  #31
God help those whom America protects.
Matyjasz 2 | 1,544  
22 Oct 2007 /  #32
It's the first time I hear about it. Very interesting indeed.

So yes, I'd say the USA did sell Poland, or (if you prefer) betrayed it.

I prefer the word deluded. :)
Crow 155 | 9,025  
22 Oct 2007 /  #33
Better attack Gerries.

... considering that they already atacked Slavic world- we should arange that it is their last mistake

So...

First, liberation of Lusatia

Second, liberation of all territories that are still under Turkish occupation

Then, who want Slavic Alliance/Union form Slavic Alliance/Union, who doesn`t wish Slavic Alliance/Union, never mind

All, who would support those goals would be definitely on the same side as Serbs
Matyjasz 2 | 1,544  
22 Oct 2007 /  #34
First, liberation of Lusatia

I don't think they want to be liberated any more.
Crow 155 | 9,025  
22 Oct 2007 /  #35
If our brothers decide, who are we to judge. Only what we can do is to support them, there is no question about it

Look how so called West using double standards when spred its influence all over the world. They say that they spread democracy, human rights, multiculturalism but, that`s not true. Their greedy fingers are just in conquest for more and more resources.

I ask ... What if, by anology, when Slavic world consolidates, we start to spread freedom, democracy, human rights, multiculturalism all over the Europe from where our ancestors and culture was brutaly pushed and destroyed. If that happened, it would be by their standards and spiritual victory is already ours.

and, look brate what Lusatians say... they already, in agony, call us...

Lusatian State
geocities.com/free_lusatia/Lusatian_State

Sorbian people have created a few organisations (e.g. Domowina) and projects (e.g. Witaj-project) to protect and promote their national identity, language and culture. It seems however to be not enough.

This page will try also to promote the idea that in the matter of fact only free and independent Sorbian State - regardless of size - would be capable to stop the process of germanisation, reverse the menace of destruction of the nation and take a proper care of Lusatian Slavs and their future.

Sons of Poland, brothers! In the name of Christ, give chance to Russians, support them in their attempts to consolidate Russia, give chance that Slavdom survive and that Slavic children rule under Slavic resources, on behalf of whole free and progresive humankind.

Surrender your life to Slavdom, soul to Christ and honor to nobody!

Put Serbian (of all European Serbs) question on European table and push back any German atempt to expand further onto Slavic territories!

Free Lusatia!

Revange for Yugoslavia!

Slavia!
ConstantineK 26 | 1,284  
23 Oct 2007 /  #36
Oh I think that such problem (on which side Poland ought to be) won't appear before this country, because in any case it will be crushed at first seconds of fight.
christoner 1 | 20  
23 Oct 2007 /  #37
we have enuff people here in the uk to fight for us ie we are inundated with foreigners so if there prepared to live here and make money here then they will be more than willing to protect us of course I am english and i would expect to be in the back line to fight
Crow 155 | 9,025  
23 Oct 2007 /  #38
Oh I think that such problem (on which side Poland ought to be) won't appear before this country, because in any case it will be crushed at first seconds of fight.

Why you said that and in that tone? It`s ugly and nasty. What then Serbs need to expect, if you Russians behave like this with Poles?

`I was` spiritualy already in Lusatia and you pushing me back in idiotic Russian-Polish antagonism. You want that Serbs extinct waiting that you solwe all your problems?

I call you Russians to be aware of historic momentum and stop to behave like that other Slavs depend on you. We have feed-back, we are first line and Russia also depend on rest of Slavic world. Russia is stong only because Russia has Slavs on western and southern borders! ... and, we bleed and you make jokes just to prove how `grandioso` you are!

please, please
Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
23 Oct 2007 /  #39
Oh I think that such problem (on which side Poland ought to be) won't appear before this country, because in any case it will be crushed at first seconds of fight.

the same as Russia
Crow 155 | 9,025  
23 Oct 2007 /  #40
You know what, if Russians don`t change their attitude, they would alone realy s*** Russia. They even don`t need any foes.

Greedy anglo-saxon and german (etc) fingers just wait to grab enormous resources for themselves. Truth is that only in cooperation between Russia and rest of Slavic world, those resources could be preserved for future Russians and other Slavs.

We need each others, its obvious to me but, how to beat f**** stupidity?!
OP Learner  
23 Oct 2007 /  #41
it is not importsnt thst this time the good guys must be the alliance. As we know the world is (the majority of the world) tired of the american ways. Maybe this time, the new union might get more support? as their agenda can be morality, equality and no aparthied on science (as i recently was hearing). and many more issues.

remember its not a racist union (like axis), its a union mostly wanting to get over the alliance (or some alliance) power (as many alliance powers might shift sides towards the union).

The third world was is not impossible, when china and russia (tired of usa) is constantly looking to make something happen, so that there is an opportunity for them to be number 1! many country would like to join such an alliance, no matter who the next super power be...it is just human nature to bring about change.

i am not against anyone :P , but interested what will poland see in its wake.
ConstantineK 26 | 1,284  
23 Oct 2007 /  #42
Oh I would be very glad if you give me some historic examples when Poland supported us....Could you?
Kilkline 1 | 689  
23 Oct 2007 /  #43
It would be difficult to provide examples of when the Poles SHOULD have supported Russia? Often Russia seems to set itself up in opposition to its neighbours rather than seeking allegiances with them, even now with economic boycotts against Georgia, against Ukraine, against Estonia, against Poland.

Russia must be a difficult country to love if you're a neighbour.
ConstantineK 26 | 1,284  
23 Oct 2007 /  #44
But why we ought to negotiate with such countries which so hostil against us?
Kilkline 1 | 689  
23 Oct 2007 /  #45
Surely they are the very people you should be negotiating with.

Russia is in a good position in terms of natural resources but it shouldnt get carried away. Economically Russia is still a small country however you measure it. Its corruption, internal political situation combined with its treament of its neighbours makes it a very unnattractive place to invest or do business.
z_darius 14 | 3,965  
23 Oct 2007 /  #46
But why we ought to negotiate with such countries which so hostil against us?

After decades of occupation of those countries by Russia and ruthless policies during the occupation, I am not quite sure what would you expect of those countries? Invite Russia and bend over to get ****ed again? Didn't the Russians kill enough Slavs and Balts? Would you have an appetite for more?
ConstantineK 26 | 1,284  
23 Oct 2007 /  #47
Well but who will help us in our evolution? Estonia? Poland? May be Georgia? Ha-ha....heap of hungry european ragamuffins....Unfortunately, you can only preach us with only one idea in your head, how to steal easily our natural rscorces....

After decades of occupation of those countries by Russia and ruthless policies during the occupation, I am not quite sure what would you expect of those countries? Invite Russia and bend over to get ****ed again? Didn't the Russians kill enough Slavs and Balts? Would you have an appetite for more?

YES!!!! Say us that you are RUSSIANS too, and you will be safe!
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893  
23 Oct 2007 /  #48
Personally I dont think the UK would want to be involved, we dont even want to be in iraq!

Hopefully we would sit that one out - let someone else do the hard work for a change - lets face it we get no thanks for anything we have done in the past!!!! just my 2p worth!
wantoknow  
23 Oct 2007 /  #49
we get no thanks for anything we have done in the past!!!!

what did you do in the past?
z_darius 14 | 3,965  
23 Oct 2007 /  #50
YES!!!! Say us that you are RUSSIANS too, and you will be safe!

But Poles are not Russians, and few Poles will lie they are in order to satisfy the Russian bully. Poles have always cherished freedom, and I can't see Poles succumbing to the кацап
wantoknow  
23 Oct 2007 /  #51
z_darius

darius was a persian, which is in modern day iran :). Modern say iran is a union between the Medes and Persians (basically people of the Fars).

Iranians are a union of Medes and Fars, a member of the 'Proto-Indo-Iranian nation'. They (North Indians, Pakistan, South Afghanistan, and Modern day Iran) are all but the same people (apart from religious differences). Same culture and more or less same race (even looks alike, with different shades of basically the same color).

My point is, how come you are so much concerned about Poland :), and sound like in favour of the west (a traditional/historical foe of Proto-Indo-Iranians). The Arabs are a different race all together (semitic people). :)

Medes though as more mixed with the caucasians...so they are just within this racial division (proto-indo-iranian/aryan). But then, they together formed a country (capturing some other lands around them...historically northern parts of India and southern parts of afghanistan were either cousins to them, or a part of their mainland).
ConstantineK 26 | 1,284  
25 Oct 2007 /  #52
So you do no have any desire to be Russian? Hemmm, it's sounds oddly.....You upset me....Well but dont say me please that you want to be a Poles!!!
joepilsudski 26 | 1,389  
26 Oct 2007 /  #53
Poland should declare complete nuetrality, like Switzerland, and offer Polish banks as a safe haven for capital, so that there is an alternative to Zionist banks...of course, Poland would probably have to insure it has at least some nuclear weapons to guarantee it's own security...does Poland have at least a basic nuclear program of it's own?
Frank 23 | 1,183  
26 Oct 2007 /  #54
Love your sense of humour.....lack of realism.......or both....:)
randompal 7 | 306  
26 Oct 2007 /  #55
Poland should declare complete nuetrality, like Switzerland, and offer Polish banks as a safe haven for capital

impossible because neutrality is for countries that are strong and cohesive internally, like Switzerland or Sweden, Poland has usually been seen as weak and therefore easily manipulated. First the Russians raped us blind (but there were plenty of Poles who were happy to help in exchange for cushy party positions) and now Uncle Scam ownz us

:(
Poland's banks are mostly foreign-owned, your safe haven scheme will never work..
z_darius 14 | 3,965  
26 Oct 2007 /  #56
does Poland have at least a basic nuclear program of it's own?

Yes. Nuclear physics is taught at some Polish universities.
Frank 23 | 1,183  
26 Oct 2007 /  #57
As for Americans selling us out, we never had any treat signed between our governments nor did Roosevelt ever promised us anything, so I don't think that we can talk here about "selling us out". (I'm also against saying that the UK sold us out BTW)

I think you'll find the USA sold everyone out to the higgest bidder...ie the bled the UK dry of every last penny...their isolationsim green lighted the facists and communists in Europe to wage war, destroy and ruin whole countries and races........
joepilsudski 26 | 1,389  
26 Oct 2007 /  #58
It was just a thought...maybe you could elaborate a little...is there internal disunity in Poland and why?...is Poland being overun by illegal immigrants who are threatening Polish culture & unity?...also, what are the big banks in Poland & do Poles own them?...

the biggest problem in the US currently is the banking system, which is owned by the Elites/Zionists...they, and their economic 'planners' have bled the US almost dry, and many of us are waiting for, shall we say, the 'clampdown'.
randompal 7 | 306  
26 Oct 2007 /  #59
is there internal disunity in Poland and why?...

yes, because people here drink too much alcohol and the politicians are corrupt opportunisitc maggots

is Poland being overun by illegal immigrants

no not yet thank God but I have noticed more and more Gypsy types lately-panhandling is their prefered activity

what are the big banks in Poland & do Poles own them?...

Millenium, BGŻ, Lukasbank, Mbank, PKO SA - I dont know if they are owned by zionists or by aliens but they are bleeding us dry!

many of us are waiting for, shall we say, the 'clampdown'.

why are you waiting, just leave for greener pastures you fool
joepilsudski 26 | 1,389  
28 Oct 2007 /  #60
Quoting: Matyjasz
As for Americans selling us out, we never had any treat signed between our governments nor did Roosevelt ever promised us anything, so I don't think that we can talk here about "selling us out". (I'm also against saying that the UK sold us out BTW)

Of course the Americans and the Brits did...in the case of Roosevelt and his 'advisors' it was already decided that the Soviet Union was to take control of Eastern Europe, including Poland...there was a heavy penetration of Communists into the US Government

before, during & after WWII...in the case of Britain, the Polish provisional or Home government was resident in the UK throughout the war, and they were given assurances that they would be the legitimate government in Poland after the war...when

Stalin and the communists objected, the Allies completely caved in and allowed Stalin to put apparatchiks like Berman in power...how do you define who wins a war?...one of the

primary definitions is the aquisition of territory...now who gained territory after WWII?...
the communists/bolshevists as represented by the Soviet Union, who made Eastern Europe their 'satellite' states...also Israel, who took over Palestine...Poland regained so-called independence, but under the control of communism, which shifted Poland's border westward, taking territory from Germany, and annexing Polish territory in the East.

why are you waiting, just leave for greener pastures you fool

It is not so easy, because of money...do you think that Poland would be a good place for me to relocate to?...I would be interested, but I don't have, say 5000-10000 Euros in

my account to be able to make a reasonable start there...but maybe I wouldn't need that much?

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