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RADICAL PRO-COMMUNSIT PORTAL CLOSED DOWN IN POLAND


Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446  
12 Jun 2008 /  #1
Poland's radical pro-communist portal Lewica bez Cenzury (LBC -- Uncensored Left) has been closed down by its creator Michał Nowicki, the unaborted son of rabid pro-abortion agitator Wanda Nowicka. He apparently was afraid of possible legal action and decided to call its quits, although no official steps against his group had been taken.. Earlier this year, the Polish authorities closd down an openly pro-Nazi and anti-Semitic portal Redwatch.

Polish law bans the promotion of both Naziism and Communism,.
LBC had promoted not only a radical brand of communism but also advocated violent reprisals against opponents, including death threats sent to journalists who publicly criticised the group.

They called on Polish soldiers in Iraq to turn their guns on their own commanders, much the way Soviet propaganda leaflets addressed to Polish troops had done in 1939.

Some observers have noted that, while neo-Nazi Redwatch was shut down by the Polish authorities, few serious attempts had been made to curtail LBC's blatant communist agitation. For some reason, in Poland and elswehrere in Europe, there exsits a tendency to be "soft on communism" -- a system that destroyed many times more human lives than Naziism and Fascism combined. Any comments?
celinski 31 | 1,258  
12 Jun 2008 /  #2
Polish authorities closd down an openly pro-Nazi and anti-Semitic portal Redwatch.

This makes sense as they are just hate groups.

I believe Communism was not the prob. but rather how it was applied, corrupt dictators. Any system can be misused or when appiled for the people can has positive results.

It is only in the last years that the past is being dealt with.

youtube.com/watch?v=4wJpkCyD0Zw

You will have to go to this as it will not link. It's 25 min. long youtube.com/watch?v=4wJpkCyD0Zw

Will Poland's plans to open hundreds of thousands of Communist files turn into a witch hunt? Collaborators face being banned from their professions for 10 years.

Inside Poland's Institute of National Remembrance are 90 km of tatty secret police files with the power to destroy lives. Under the government's new 'lustration' law, the files of everyone in positions of responsibility would be scrutinized to prove they didn't collaborate. "A new Poland can't be built without great cleansing", explains Prime Minister Jaroslaw Kavzynski. But critics, like former President Lech Walesa, think the law is more about settling old scores than obtaining justice. "They are using this opportunity to smear an entire generation of older people", claims historian Wiktor Osiatynski. The files have already ruined the career of Andrzej Krawczyk, once undersecretary of state to the President. "I was blackmailed -- three years in jail or co-operation", he claims describing why, in 1982, he signed a statement promising to collaborate. He never followed through and was cleared in court of collaborating. But the statement was enough to cost him his job. As Osiatynsk states, thanks to the new law; "Polish society has never been so divided."
janekb - | 57  
12 Jun 2008 /  #3
Polish law bans the promotion of both Naziism and Communism,.

Thats by itself in antidemocratic. Both ideologies, so thoroughly discredited in Poland, will not find many adherents and can be discussed openly.
Unless authorities realized the danger of discussing openly ideology (communism) which in its essence is identical to the Catholicism when stripped of its superficial trappings.

secret police files with the power to destroy lives

I will suggest to open these files to the general public. Let people to defend themselves, if accused, using these very documents. Will this files ruin peoples lives, undoubtedly, but how many lives were ruined by ones who cooperated. Such an act will free many from unjust suspicion. Would it bring down some heroes, let society be a judge.
celinski 31 | 1,258  
12 Jun 2008 /  #4
Would it bring down some heroes, let society be a judge.

I feel the same way. I hate to think of the ones living in fear that did nothing but play along to avoid death.
randompal 7 | 306  
12 Jun 2008 /  #5
Communism,.

interesting, i've never heard of such a law...
lesser 4 | 1,311  
14 Jun 2008 /  #6
Those who had a pleasure to visit this website know how great lose it is for Polish left :)) Those people are joke, they indeed advocated to use force against political opponents however I doubt anybody could treat seriously their efforts.

Michał Nowicki, the unaborted son of rabid pro-abortion agitator Wanda Nowicka

LOL I did not knew that they are related. Apple fallen close to apple tree. :)

For some reason, in Poland and elswehrere in Europe, there exsits a tendency to be "soft on communism" -- a system that destroyed many times more human lives than Naziism and Fascism combined. Any comments?

They are not "soft" towards communism, I dare to say that they quietly sympathize with this ideology. If you look at biographies of those old politicians that run the EU, you will see how many of them were communists when young.

(communism) which in its essence is identical to the Catholicism when stripped of its superficial trappings.

Of course, you are very wrong. Christianity advocate helping people whom find itself in difficult situation from some reason. While socialism or communism treat humans beings like raiser treats animals from the start, they calculate that people are unable to take care about themselves and they obligatory need state intervention to survive. Let me remind you that “liberation theology” so popular in Latin America some time ago was condemned by Pope John Paul II.
joepilsudski 26 | 1,389  
15 Jun 2008 /  #7
There exsits a tendency to be "soft on communism" -- a system that destroyed many times more human lives than Naziism and Fascism combined. Any comments?

Communism was a system of 'secular Jewish messianism', or an attempt to create a Jewish utopia without God...because of 'hate speech' regulations, Jews cannot be criticized publicly for their crime against humanity, because, as we all know, the Jewish people have no sin, and are incapable of error...any revelation concerning the atrocities of Bolshevism calls into question the 'Holocaust', which some 'intellectual' Jews have stated makes the life and death of Jesus Christ of 'no effect'...there are other factors, also...the Russians feel that to come clean about what happened there under communism would throw a 'distasteful' light on them; Putin, who is a Russian nationalist, but tries to play the globalist, too, does not want any 'inconveniebt' truths about Russian communism to screw up Russian business deals.

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