China to buy 150 helicopters from Poland

I knew that Molotov-Ribbentrop's pact was just our protective measure


Poland is in ally with China? Heh, Are you kidding? Do you still engage in espionage, now in favour of China?

we were cooperating with them to survive ...


no we are not, we are in much different alinace ... I just have noticed one aspect of Polish - Chinese relations ...

With whom? With Jupan? Huh....is it a true Polish view on the historical process? Ples were against Hitler but secretly were for Jupan in their fight against Russia and US, especially US?

don't maniupulate, you don't know the facts ... we cooperated in case of Russia ... not US. and it was before WWII. Japanise cultre is much different and durring WWII they decided to help for Poles even nobody asked them to do it (it was about honor)

Suppose that it was Jupan who cleared Poland from Germans?

this jobe was achieved by combined alied forces ... and it is good Japan Germany, Italy ... were beaten ... I just wanted to notice some interesting aspects of Polish politics ;-) and history ...

Japan was allied with Poland during WWII???

Lukasz?
Can you please post some sources? That really interests me, thank you!

Tibet is not a Polish problem...By the way, although I feel empathy for any people
who suffer under the yoke of another, Poles labor under their own alien yokes...and,
as far as Tibetan Buddhism, this is a religion that worships multiple gods & demons,
and is not something that I would glorify...leave it to Hollywood fools & prostitutes
to supoprt a religion of demonology.

I think it is interesting that China wants to buy Polish made aircraft. China is quite capable of making their own. If they are military aircraft it is possible China wants to allow their military pilots to practice flying against Polish aircraft. Another option that has been seen time and again from China, those same aircraft will be either copied outright or "improved" in some way, and sold at a price to the world market that the Polish manufacturer cannot compete with, eventually driving the Polish manufacturer out of business and allowing the new Chinese manufacturer to name its price. It's economic warfare 101 and the Chinese are masters of it. Try buying a television set made in the U.S. for instance (U.S. used to make the vast majority of the world's televisions). Good luck-China, due to different labor rules etc. can put a complete television set on the shelf at WalMart or wherever for less than manufacturers in the west (not just the U.S.) can buy the raw material GLASS for the picture tube alone. Same thing with military hardware. There are floods of Chinese made "M-14" rifles that look and operate almost identical to the original U.S. version, as well as outright copies of Soviet submarines, even their missiles are copies.

Does anyone know the claimed use for the Polish made helicopters?

John P.

I'm sure they'll claim surveillance. The Poles have decent air technology. There is a base in Dęblin which has some amazing aircraft. The Chinese would be getting a bargain. Trying to buy Polish support methinks

very possible.
With China nothing is free, and if they see something they like, they'll pay handsomely for it until they can work out how the thing works and make their own version. There are some very capable helicopters from Poland, and it would be very savvy of China to buy some to fly against her own pilots. I think a similar reason is why the U.S. currently has more Mi-24 Hind helicopters than Russia does (I guess we bought a lot of them...) for training pilots.

I've even seen gun camera footage from one in training getting the drop on an F-14 (how it does it I probably shouldn't get into-but all the helicopter types in the room cheered-there's a fixed-wing/helicopter rivalry of sorts...)

John P.

I never said that China represent example for democratic country. I said many times that i don`t consider Russia as democratic country as well but country still in transition.

In the same time, I also said many times that I don`t consider USA (and other countries of so called west) as democratic countries.

All the time, I point on double standards in international relations. I don`t sense that UN cover interests of world public but mighty `world policeman` and his particular interests.

How could Russia guarantee the quality of Polish made products?

These Polish helicopters have an excellent reputation.

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  Rescue Copter
  
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  W3
  

What? Poles produce helicopters? Amaizing! And they can fly?

i pointed on old (over Warsaw pact) connections of Polish and Russian military industry. Soviets sold a lot of army products to China.


sure. NATO uses them for creation of Greater Albania down there on Serbian Kosovo.

Like the computer and the keyboard you used to type the above.


First steps would be painful, but this is a good idea. That's how it used to be years ago. Remember?


That's true only for those who still haven't lost their jobs to their Chinese counterparts.

You make good points...Poland should trade with China...the only thing: the Polish helicopter company should make sure the one lightbulb in the helicopter works!