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Abkhazia and South Ossetia are independent states now! Poland reaction?


loco polaco 3 | 352  
26 Aug 2008 /  #31
i'm totaly OK with the red collapse. way better then the menace they are now.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,742  
26 Aug 2008 /  #32
And then?

How do you think a "red collapse" will look like?
What will that mean for Europe?

Tell me...
ski 7 | 140  
26 Aug 2008 /  #33
Russia isn't close to collaps but it is time to calculate harder.

I have bought new car of course hybride and of couse car is not german. remember single penny to single penny ;)
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,742  
26 Aug 2008 /  #34
I have bought new car of course hybride and of couse car is not german. remember single penny to single penny ;)

And that is of interest to whom???
Germany will survive your pennies...
ski 7 | 140  
26 Aug 2008 /  #35
And that is of interest to whom???

It is in interest of people who love peace nature ecology and freedom.

If you like nature and peace, save natural resources.

german cars are not so good as it was in the past ...
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,742  
26 Aug 2008 /  #36
german cars are not so good as it was in the past ...

Well...Abkhazians and South Ossetians will be pleased/saddened to know!
ski 7 | 140  
26 Aug 2008 /  #37
I hope that somebody will send there experts to check everything, I hope that Georgians haven't done something wrong there. Maybe somebody will check situation in Georgian towns. Lets hope situation will be normal.
loco polaco 3 | 352  
26 Aug 2008 /  #38
if you mean rubble, then it's all normal.
Yanek 3 | 29  
26 Aug 2008 /  #39
My congrats to all Abkhasians and Ossetians! They finally got it! Long live to them!
loco polaco 3 | 352  
26 Aug 2008 /  #40
they'll be under the red thumb soon enough.
ski 7 | 140  
26 Aug 2008 /  #41
if you mean rubble, then it's all normal.

I am worried that now Russian miniority in Estonia or other Baltic states will be in danger. Not to mention Ukraine.
Seanus 15 | 19,674  
26 Aug 2008 /  #42
A slap in the face to Bush who regarded them as part of Georgia. Bush talks about democracy and makes a mockery of it in his own country and abroad. The majority of people there wanted independence and it has now been conferred on them.

I don't see a Russian presence as being detrimental. After all, how long are American troops gonna occupy Iraqi space for?
eagle - | 29  
26 Aug 2008 /  #43
All this hypocritical noise about Georgia's territorial integrity being respected really sucks. Why is independence good for Kosovo but not for SO and Abkhazia? Why not put this to a refrendum and let the two regions decide for themselves? So much for democracy,or may be it's only democracy when it suits the US administration and it's sycophants?
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,742  
26 Aug 2008 /  #44
There was a referendum 2006 in SO....98 percent for independence!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Ossetian_independence_referendum,_2006
ski 7 | 140  
26 Aug 2008 /  #45
In last elections in Cheuchenia Putin got 105% of votes ... later results have been changed in to 95% of votes.
eagle - | 29  
26 Aug 2008 /  #46
There was a referendum 2006 in SO....98 percent for independence!

URL

Thanks for that info BB.
Yanek 3 | 29  
26 Aug 2008 /  #47
By the way, people, attempts somehow to isolate and punish Russia for its military actions in Georgia will lead to return results. The economic power of Russia will increase, its role will increase in world politics. Russia on the right way...
Ryszard - | 89  
26 Aug 2008 /  #48
There was a referendum 2006 in SO....98 percent for independence!

Let us never forget this referendum was held after 15 years of Russian occupation, during Russian occupation and the so-called neutral observers was so neutral as for example leader of Ukrainian delegation, radical leftist, supporter of former Soviet Union, Nataliya Vitrenko

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nataliya_Vitrenko

In other words: it was b**lshit.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,742  
26 Aug 2008 /  #49
Welll...you mean their independence is forced upon poor Abkhazians and even poorer South Ossetians against their will???

:)
masks98 27 | 289  
26 Aug 2008 /  #50
That's enough for me..

Haha BB's a humanitarian now...But I agree, if these provinces declared their own independance, and then ruled themselves autonomously over a number of years, it's criminal to try to wreck it all and destroy the stability the people their have been striving to achieve. Anyways, they've been independent in fact, Gerogia failed to prevent that fact from becoming a reality, so they've lost, game's over, S.Ossetia and Abkhazia are independent.
Ryszard - | 89  
26 Aug 2008 /  #51
Welll...you mean their independence is forced upon poor Abkhazians and even poorer South Ossetians against their will???

After 15 years of "russian help", even pigs would vote for independence in SO
eagle - | 29  
26 Aug 2008 /  #52
There was a referendum 2006 in SO....98 percent for independence!

Let us never forget this referendum was held after 15 years of Russian occupation, during Russian occupation and the so-called neutral observers was so neutral as for example leader of Ukrainian delegation, radical leftist, supporter of former Soviet Union, Nataliya Vitrenko

In other words: it was b**lshit.

Wonder if you'd say the same about Kosovo,you know,NATO bombs the heck out of Serbia,keeps it's forces there and after sometime the Kosovan declare independence and it's promptly recognised by the ''west?"
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,742  
26 Aug 2008 /  #53
After 15 years of "russian help", even pigs would vote for independence in SO

I'm just watching poor, opressed Abkhazians and SO's dancing and partying in the streets...my are they sad to become independent! :)
celinski 31 | 1,258  
26 Aug 2008 /  #54
Abkhazians and even poorer South Ossetians against their will???

You do know that Russia would not care less about them if it wasn't for the pipeline?
masks98 27 | 289  
26 Aug 2008 /  #55
that doesn't matter at all, if their business interests wed them to S.Ossetia's political interests, so be it, they are allies, and russia is doing no wrong in helping its allies.
Ryszard - | 89  
26 Aug 2008 /  #56
Wonder if you'd say the same about Kosovo,you know,NATO bombs the heck out of Serbia,keeps it's forces there and after sometime the Kosovan declare independence and it's promptly recognised by the ''west?"

I can do better - wonder if you say the same about Chechnyas? Fighting for independece many years, yet still somehow deny it them, wonder why... Russia is sooo generous in giving independence but somehow only to the countries which don't lie inside her borders...

I'm just watching poor, opressed Abkhazians and SO's dancing and partying in the streets...

And I'm just watching the thousands of happy and joyous Georgians which were forcefully expelled from SO after 1991 are were never allowed to be back.
celinski 31 | 1,258  
26 Aug 2008 /  #57
they are allies, and russia is doing no wrong in helping its allies.

We were allies with Soviets also, I don't believe everthing I hear. Russia is not doing this out of the goodness of her heart. By the way how many of the people were killed when Russia went in?
ski 7 | 140  
26 Aug 2008 /  #58
OMG don't you see that in some discussions this person (BB) is refering to slavic nations in way hitler did it. Later he tries to prove that independent Poland was mistake and of course Russian bombarding Georgian towns near Georgian borders (for half year) are peace keepers. Later they signed agreement with France to end this war but they are still there. Everything is ok for BB, even German paganism what caused ...

you can talk to him like to wall.
celinski 31 | 1,258  
26 Aug 2008 /  #59
OMG don't you see

Sure I see, it's because he has his high hopes on the nord now and would love to own some property in Warsaw. Brat are you really in Germany and not Russia?
tornado2007 11 | 2,270  
26 Aug 2008 /  #60
Listen, why are we all worrying about this??? were we conserned before the war broke out, were we heck!!!!!. They were poor then and they are poor now, the Russians and the Georgians got into this mess, they can dam well sort it out without grabbing our arms for hand outs to sort out their mess!!

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