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Vanguard - | 24  
30 Mar 2008 /  #121
Yes just like mental illness used to be treated like demonic possession! Just like how around that same time they would put leaches on ur skin in an attempt to remove "the bad blood". U just made urself sound like a moron! Homosexuality isn't a disease it doesn't fit the description for one thats a medical fact! If u are going to provide arguments against gay marriage provide premises to ur conclusions!

Obviously I hit a nerve with you, and now you are chimping out on the forum. I made no mention of "sin" or "moral" and used logic and reasoning to defend my position, not religion.

You obviously can't handle the truth of my words, and I think you should visit a mental hygienist to deal with your illness. At the very least, you must realize that you are ill before you can get treatment.
RockyMason 19 | 250  
31 Mar 2008 /  #122
okay then i'll use ur logic yet again. All things that are unnatural are things that must then be illegal. So therefore you are acting illegally under your own system of logic by even responding to me lol. Okay if ur logical then put a few of your statements into symbolic form indicate wat symbols represent the various implications. If u can do that and I can do a deduction that comes to no conclusion or a to different one ur reasoning is invalid.

ANSWER MY QUESTIONS VANGUARD! Wat reason should gay marriage be illegal besides the hazard to ur health and ur opinion it is unnatural? Should magistrates delve into the bedroom businesss of people who want to marry then?
Vanguard - | 24  
31 Mar 2008 /  #123
You just don't get it.

Read my original post.

Use your head.

I won't throw any more pearls to swine like you.
RockyMason 19 | 250  
31 Mar 2008 /  #124
OH i did, but u don't answer my questions in ur original post. =) Ur funny im swine? Call me wat u will but it won't change who or wat i am. I am still going to own u in give or take 10 years=). IF I ever have homophobes in my workplace im going out and recruiting a gay couple to work right next to them!!! THen if the moron says anything im firing him on the spot! The homophobia will end it is going to take time though!

I THINK YOUR GAY AND U JUST CAN'T COME TO TERMS WITH IT!
isthatu 3 | 1,164  
1 Apr 2008 /  #125
The vagina and penis are matched pairs, one meant for the other

I doubt it in your case,the vagina is probably far to large for you.....

Humanity can survive without flying but it cannot survive without heterosexual relations. That's what's unnatural in homosexuality. It is against the basic principle of life - perpetuation of the species.

You have flawed logic.I suppose Catholic priests should also be outlawed and sent for mental health care because they dont(publicaly) reproduce......
Kilkline 1 | 689  
1 Apr 2008 /  #126
That's what's unnatural in homosexuality. It is against the basic principle of life - perpetuation of the species.

So are blow jobs but I bet none of us dont turn them down.
RockyMason 19 | 250  
1 Apr 2008 /  #127
You have flawed logic.I suppose Catholic priests should also be outlawed and sent for mental health care because they dont(publicaly) reproduce......

OHHHH zdarius PWNED! Catholic priests should b sent to mental hospitals! Sanity is relative to culture and I am sure most modern day people in the USA would believe a man who doesn't want to have sex b/c of an imaginary friend is insane! Either that or they really do have sex which would mean they are liars!
z_darius 14 | 3,965  
1 Apr 2008 /  #128
Society itself produces gay u cannot have a society without them.

Yes you can.

So if u were to have sexual relations without the chance of pregnancy its unnatural and against the basic principle of life? Thats all anal sex is sexual relations without any chance of pregnancy.

Correct. Sex is pleasurable but from biological standpoint it's not about pleasure but about procreation. The purpose of anus is not sex, btw.

You have flawed logic.I suppose Catholic priests should also be outlawed and sent for mental health care because they dont(publicaly) reproduce......

My logic isn't flawed at all, yours is. I'm talking about biology, you're talking about human law/ethics.

And yes, celibacy is against the basic drive of life too.
matthias 3 | 429  
1 Apr 2008 /  #129
If these gays are so tolerant, they should be tolerant enough to accept that Poland is a Catholic country. Why force someone to accept you. You want to be gay that's fine(even though its a psychological problem), keep it in the bedroom. No need to brag about it, because it just makes me laugh.....

Their was an incident in New Jersey where a straight couple was harassed by the gay community walking down the street. They where called breeders(meant to be derogatory) and some other few choice words. What is the world coming to if your being made fun of being straight. Just shows how good the gays have it and shows how their pressing their luck...

Yes there are. According to them, genetics make some individuals predisposed for homosexuality. What will then catalyze it (or not) and make a person become homosexual is the relation she will have with the environment while growing up and building her identity as the image of herself given back to her by the environment. A friend of mine (she's a psychologist) says that in many cases where a man is gay, it's a trauma caused by having the combination of an absent or despising father with an authoritarian and over-protective mother.

I agree, how can being gay be genetic, gays can't reproduce (homosexuality has been around for a thousands of years, if it was a genetic defect after such a long time the gene would be diluted because of the lack of homosexual reproduction) .... Haven't you notice how some lesbians hate men.... obviously they had a bad experience growing up and this is a way of them coping with the situation. Fu*k grow up and be a little tougher, I had bad a experience with a couple of my girlfriends, and I still love women... You want to help gays be accepted, help them understand they have a problem.....

biblebelievers.com/Cameron3.html

Link above explains how homosexuality is a environmental trait and not a genetic one.

We shouldn't punish homosexuals or anything but at the same time we should'nt be forced to accept it as okey, because it's not...
LondonChick 31 | 1,133  
1 Apr 2008 /  #130
Guys, come-on.... stop trying to over-analyse it. In the words of Stonewall's current campaign, some people are gay - get over it.

And as for Catholicism.... come on... all those buff young priests in the Vatican City. If you don't believe me, check this out: calendarioromano.co.uk
matthias 3 | 429  
1 Apr 2008 /  #131
Same thing can be said LondonChick that some people don't accept gays, get over that......

why force someone to accept you... it's counter-productive.... honestly do they really need a parade????? If so parade around in the bedroom..... and keep it private.....

Do you see straight people having their parade..... I don't think so, the gays would cry discrimination..... I'm not going to be walking around on egg shells just to make sure homosexuals aren't offended.... (homosexuality is not genetic, it was very clever of them to claim that though) because how can anyone argue with that....
RockyMason 19 | 250  
1 Apr 2008 /  #132
If these gays are so tolerant, they should be tolerant enough to accept that Poland is a Catholic country. Why force someone to accept you. You want to be gay that's fine(even though its a psychological problem), keep it in the bedroom. No need to brag about it, because it just makes me laugh.....

Okay then accept things as they are..... let women get beat let people oppress other people. I guess things never need to change! We should stay in Iraq forever and have george bush as a president forever. POLAND MAY HAVE A CATHOLIC MAJORITY BUT THEY ARE NOT A CATHOLIC COUNTRY! THAT WOULD MEAN THEY ARE A THEOCRACY!

Their was an incident in New Jersey where a straight couple was harrassed by the gay community walking down the street. They where called breeders(meant to be derogatory) and some other few choice words. What is the world coming to if your being made fun of being straight. Just shows how good the gays have it and shows how their pressing their luck...

HA that is a rarity but it makes me laugh! Matthias u and I both know this is probably a one in 50million occurance! U can't site an extremely rare occurance and use it as an example of reverse discrimination currently happening! U can but it's a terrible and easily disproveable argument! Ive been the the Castro in SF at least a few times every year since i was young and there are str8 couples there all the time! I have never once seen them be harrassed! I know thats a hasty generalization but I think we are pretty certain gays are more likely to be discriminated against than to discriminate!

Link above explains how homosexulality is a envorenmental trait and not a genetic one.

We shouldn't punish homosexuals or anything but at the same time we should'nt be forced to accept it as okey, because it's not...

That link doesn't prove a thing! There are experts on both sides with studies done by credible ppl. The nature vs nurture debate is still raging and I don't forsee an end for a few decades. Wether or not its "okay" is your opinion. Just as it is the opinion of a muslim that it is not "okay" to not cover your face if your a woman! Just as in the opinion of some people that the war in Iraq is "good". The effects of something only go one way. Wether or not those effects are good is a matter of opinion. If your making 50 billion dollars off the war in iraq u might not think it's a "bad" war u might think it is "okay". If your a psycho soldier who has to maintain his honor and win a war just to win it u might think it is okay too especially if u think honor is priceless!
LondonChick 31 | 1,133  
1 Apr 2008 /  #133
Do you see straight people having their parade..... I don't think so, the gays would cry discrimination..... I'm not going to be walking around on egg shells just to make sure homosexuals aren't offended.... (homosexuality is not genetic, it was very clever of them to claim that though) because how can anyone argue with that....

Hey calm down....

I bet you still got a boner when you clicked on the think that I posted above, eh?
matthias 3 | 429  
1 Apr 2008 /  #134
Okay then accept things as they are..... let women get beat let people oppress other people. I

are we killing gays in Poland or something, no we just don't want them parading around town.....

POLAND MAY HAVE A CATHOLIC MAJORITY BUT THEY ARE NOT A CATHOLIC COUNTRY!

okay, regardless of their religion they don't accept homosexuality, why force it on them???? no one is being hurt....... except the homosexual's feelings? fu*k that.... if it comes to the feelings of the majority of the feelings of a tiny minority I think the answer is pretty clear.... Now if people were advocating attacking gays than that would be a different story but their not....

HA that is a rarity but it makes me laugh! Matthias u and I both know this is probably a one in 50million occurance! U can't site an extremely rare occurance and use it as an example of reverse discrimination currently happening! U can but it's a terrible and easily disproveable argument! Ive been the the Castro in SF at least a few times every year since i was young and there are str8 couples there all the time! I have never once seen them be harrassed! I know thats a hasty generalization but I think we are pretty certain gays are more likely to be discriminated against than to discriminate!

just showing how good gays have it in the US.... fu*k that... I don't care if its one incident or not, that shi*t is not going to fly in Poland....

That link doesn't prove a thing! There are experts on both sides with studies done by credible ppl.

Um those studies that have been done linking homosexuality to genetics have been dis-proven or the experiment could not be reproduced... If you took any science course you would know that if an experiment can't be reproduced than it can't be used as evidence.... all factors must be carefully controlled....

btw, I'm not making any money from Iraq, if anything I'm losing money(when you consider the taxes I pay)...... But Im willing to make the necessary sacrifices......... it's the least I can do

Hey calm down....

I bet you still got a boner when you clicked on the think that I posted above, eh?

are you feeling okey???? I am calm...... stop being a cry baby....
isthatu 3 | 1,164  
1 Apr 2008 /  #135
Do you see straight people having their parade.....

Yes,everyday you see public face sucking in the street......
matthias 3 | 429  
1 Apr 2008 /  #136
lmao, I not a fan of PDA (Public displays of affection), its nauseating either way gay or straight... just much more disgusting when you see two guys doing it......

Poland is a Catholic country, they have a right not to have to accept it..... all the gays can move to UK, since its so acceptable there......... Poles aren't attacking gays they just don't want to be forced into accepting it as normal.... because it's not....
isthatu 3 | 1,164  
1 Apr 2008 /  #137
its nauseating either way gay or straight

yep,

just much more disgusting when you see two guys doing it......

Im not a fan myself,but,were not in nazi germany so,it cant be one rule for some ....
Incidently Mattie,2 foxy chica's,,whats your view? ;)
matthias 3 | 429  
1 Apr 2008 /  #138
Im not a fan myself,but,were not in nazi germany so,it cant be one rule for some ....

thats true, Im not here to advocate discrimination against gays..... My parents even have one gay friend(coolest guy ever).... However I personally don't want to see it with my own eyes when their kissing and being affectionate.... It's a fair point you bring up..... it's only fair, but somehow that's not convincing me...

Incidently Mattie,2 foxy chica's,,whats your view? ;)

man, I was hoping no one would bring that arguement up....... cr*p..... somehow that doesnt bother me......

best compromise I cant think of, leave the status quo.... let's not discriminate but I rather have the gays keep it in the bedroom....

I respect the wishes and understand the gay community but they need to be just as understanding of the Catholic community....
RockyMason 19 | 250  
1 Apr 2008 /  #139
Um those studies that have been done linking homosexuality to genetics have been dis-proven or the experiment could not be reproduced... If you took any science course you would know that if an experiment can't be reproduced than it can't be used as evidence.... all factors must be carefully controlled....

Oh there is no absolute proof or disproof for either belief dude! If there had been a completely conclusive study that proves without a shred of a doubt it was either nature or nurture or a combination it would b in the spotlight right now LOL.

just showing how good gays have it in the US.... fu*k that... I don't care if its one incident or not, that shi*t is not going to fly in Poland....

Well too bad freedom of speech dude! They do have that in pooland right?

okay, regardless of their religion they don't accept homosexuality, why force it on them???? no one is being hurt....... except the homosexual's feelings? fu*k that.... if it comes to the feelings of the majority of the feelings of a tiny minority I think the answer is pretty clear.... Now if people were advocating attacking gays than that would be a different story but their not....

I am sure the catholics hurt more gay feelings than gays hurt catholics feelings! =) At least under all rational thought. Gettin your feelings hurt because of wat some1 else does in their bedroom because its a sin is ridiculous! It's not okay to discriminate though and I believe thats pervasive in poland!
matthias 3 | 429  
1 Apr 2008 /  #140
Oh there is no absolute proof or disproof for either belief dude! If there had been a completely conclusive study that proves without a shred of a doubt it was either nature or nurture or a combination it would b in the spotlight right now LOL.

actually all the studies that where conducted to prove a link between genetics and homosexualities have been disproven. However the research done linking envormental factors and homosexuality have not been disproven... Their is no conclusive evidence either way but the evidence points to the environment.... Also tell me how being gay can be genetic.... gay people don't reproduce and how can they pass the gay gene..... I probably know what your going to say, but Im going to wait for your post before I respond.

Well too bad freedom of speech dude! They do have that in pooland right?

actually you don't know what freedom of speech means..... that's called a verbal assualt(a crime)........ there are certain things that cross the line... Even US law recognizes that..... first learn the laws in the US before you ask me about the laws in Poland....

Gettin your feelings hurt because of wat some1 else does in their bedroom because its a sin is ridiculous!

I don't have a problem as long as its in the bedroom.....
Vanguard - | 24  
1 Apr 2008 /  #141
Thank you Matthias. I'm glad that some Polish people have been able to see the degeneracy coming from Western Europe and the U.S. and see that it is bad.
RockyMason 19 | 250  
1 Apr 2008 /  #142
actually all the studies that where conducted to prove a link between genetics and homosexualities have been disproved. However the research done linking environmental factors and homosexuality have not been disproved... Their is no conclusive evidence either way but the evidence points to the environment.... Also tell me how being gay can be genetic.... gay people don't reproduce and how can they pass the gay gene..... I probably know what your going to say, but I'm going to wait for your post before I respond.

Yes this is kind of a debate that is over both of our heads. I know of dozens of studies that haven't been disproved.

yet.
thetech.org/genetics/news.php?id=19

actually you don't know what freedom of speech means..... that's called a verbal assault(a crime)........ there are certain things that cross the line... Even US law recognizes that..... first learn the laws in the US before you ask me about the laws in Poland....

HAHAHAHAHAHA
Verbal Assault
The abuser tends to verbally assault their victim by calling names, degrading, screaming, threatening, criticizing, berating and humiliating. They will center their victim out in front of family and friends by taking small personality flaws and embellishing them to the extreme. They make snide remarks and use sarcasm to erode the victim's sense of self-worth and self confidence. Making the victim look bad in front of others is an attempt to isolate the victim and keep them at their mercy. Then, the abuse worsens.

That one snide comment made would never ever in hell qualify as a verbal assault in a courtroom! Even if u had the best attorneys u would never ever ever in 1000000000 million years win. You are being a moron matthias! Hey mathias if u were here and if ur family was here I'd call u all kinds of names in front of ur family one time though"ur definition of verbal assault". Then laugh if u tried to take it into court and failed! At best u might get a temporary restraining order with anything like this but i really really doubt it! For that you'd prolly need a phenomenal attorney and it wouldn't b worth the $ One small occurrence isn't verbal assault if anything its a gay being mean! It's not a crime until ur convicted matthias and if that is all that happen is a gay said "breeders" to a str8 couple one time it would never even make it into a courtroom!
matthias 3 | 429  
1 Apr 2008 /  #143
You are being a moron matthias! Hey mathias if u were here and if ur family was here i'd call u all kinds of names in front of ur family one time though"ur definition of verbal assault

well I guess you can tell that to the Police because they were investigating the crime....... I guess you feel stupid right now........ word of advice, dont become a lawyer.....
Patrycja19 62 | 2,688  
1 Apr 2008 /  #144
You are being a moron matthias! Hey mathias if u were here and if ur family was here i'd call u all kinds of names in front of ur family one time though"ur definition of verbal assault". Then laugh if u tried to take it into court and failed! At best u might get a temporary restraining order with anything like this but i really really doubt it!

this could even be considered harassment,slander,defamation of character <~
not sure if thats the right word, spelling, but yep all these hold up in court
if you dont get a cut-throat judge.. which is sad in my opinion.. because
people who do this need to be made example of so they dont act all spoiled
and stupid all the time.
matthias 3 | 429  
1 Apr 2008 /  #145
Thank you Matthias. I'm glad that some Polish people have been able to see the degeneracy coming from Western Europe and the U.S. and see that it is bad

Im with you on this one........ Funny thing is most homophobic attacks occur in western EU and the US....

Western EU and US preach tolerance and yet somehow gays are attacked constantly.... Poland preaches Catholism(which is against homosexuality) but yet somehow we don't have nowhere near the amount of attacks....

Before somehow replies it's only because Poland's population is smaller, well your wrong, where talking about %'s as compared to population....
RockyMason 19 | 250  
1 Apr 2008 /  #146
well I guess you can tell that to the Police because they were investigating the crime....... I guess you feel stupid right now........ word of advice, dont become a lawyer.....

Investigating doesn't mean anything lol. prove it i want to see the proof that this happened!

this could even be considered harassment,slander,defamation of character <~
not sure if thats the right word, spelling, but yep all these hold up in court
if you dont get a cut-throat judge.. which is sad in my opinion.. because
people who do this need to be made example of so they dont act all spoiled
and stupid all the time.

Okay make an example of me! YES I WOULD LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE THAT U STUPID POLLACK =D PLEASE?
matthias 3 | 429  
1 Apr 2008 /  #147
Investigating doesn't mean anything lol. prove it i want to see the proof that this happened!

your an idiot, happened in New Jersey about a year or two ago........ I really don't care that much about the case to keep close track of what happened afterwards.... feel free to do your own research.........

Okay make an example of me! YES I WOULD LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE THAT U STUPID POLLACK =D PLEASE?

you dumbfu*k, your lucky your on the net............... It would be my pleasure if we were face to face, unfotunately we're not.... so feel free to continue with your pathetic life........
Patrycja19 62 | 2,688  
1 Apr 2008 /  #148
Okay make an example of me! YES I WOULD LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE THAT U STUPID POLLACK =D PLEASE?

Rocky I dont need to make example of you, because you do a fine job yourself
by your reckless display of debate..

you dumbfu*k, your lucky your on the net............... It would be my pleasure if we were face to face, unfotunately we're not.... so feel free to continue with your pathetic life........

dont worry bout it matt, Its no sweat off my back if the prozac king OD"S
Im sure his daddy will find him a good rehab eventually and he will be on
that daytime reality tv rehab show..

and I wont cry for him boo fekin hoo.. lmao.
matthias 3 | 429  
1 Apr 2008 /  #149
dont worry bout it matt, Its no sweat off my back if the prozac king OD"S

*deep breaths 1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5 all better now,

Im sure his daddy will find him a good rehab eventually and he will be on
that daytime reality tv rehab show..

the sooner the better....the dude's a crackhead............
RockyMason 19 | 250  
1 Apr 2008 /  #150
you dumbfu*k, your lucky your on the net............... It would be my pleasure if we were face to face, unfotunately we're not.... so feel free to continue with your pathetic life........

=) where do u live? i look forward 2 it i do travel u know! =) Wat either way i see it i'll either ***** u out or u'll ***** me out. I'd laugh at ur silly pole accent the entire time! I'd eat away at u so badly u'd want to hit me! =) I'd hope u did i like $!

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