Euro Elections 4th June - Who will you vote for ?

Many people thought that too, but unfortunately they were fooled
(that's why Marek Jurek left PiS).

I'll be voting Scottish Nationalist Party.

They have done a good job running the government so far.

Do they have any candidates near Woburn. I think they would stand a good chance;)

Just "Googled" Woburn.
Wiki page is blank....- nice Safari park apparently.

Jose Manuel Barroso in Polish Radio encourage Polish citizens to participate in elections.

Zatem Parlament Europejski jest ważną instytucją, a siła w niej poszczególnych krajów zależy od ich aktywności. Dlatego jeszcze raz apeluję do Polaków o czynny udział w europejskiej debacie. Ale podkreślam: oczywiście, szanuję wszystkie polityczne wybory, jeśli są, oczywiście, demokratyczne i proeuropejskie.

Translation

European parliament is important institution and position of different states depends from their activity. This is why I encourage Poles to participate in European debate. However I underline: Obviously I respect all political choices, unless of course it is democratic and pro-European.

Obviously 'we' understand the message, of course they will decide when it is democratic and pro-European! :)))) Viva EUSSR! Viva the new EU nationalism!


Every honest European should do it!

I am quite amazed to see that on a forum re Poland where many of the participants are either non Poles living in Poland or Polish people living outside of Poland, most of the votes seem to be going to anti European parties.. After all, were it not for Europe, there would not be many polish people in the Uk or many foreigners in Poland (I came here for the first time in 1985, and trust me, the entry process in Poland was altogether very different!). I suppose this shows the depth of disillusionment with EU as it is today..

Where's 'Screaming' Lord Sutch and his Monster Raving Loony Party when you need them? ;) ;)

I don't see here any anti-European people posting. I see people expressing their dislike towards the EU.

Do you have a courage to defend EU policy on this forum? Does above mentioned comment of Barroso amaze you to the same extend?

Shouldn't that be: (...) as long as these are democratic and pro-european choices.

Perhaps, I wont argue. Still, I think that it is understandable.

As long as or provided that are both good. It is understandable in Polish, yes, but unless would mean the opposite, lesser.

Unless is more like 'if not'. I won't help you unless you help me, for example.

I'd vote for the SNP were I in Scotland.

Anyway, Barroso sounds a little bit like Henry Ford ("Any customer can
have a car painted any colour that he wants so long as it is black") lol

Of course, Barroso did not say what is quoted above in polish and presented as an "original version"! Do you believe the guy really did an interview in Polish?? In fact, either the translation is rubbish or the journalist has deliberately misquoted what Barroso said. Having in my business being exposed first hand to polish journalists, I would say both are possible, because ethical standards among them are very low, and they don't hesitate to fabricate false quotes to fill their articles.

Here below you can find a genuine quote of what Barroso really said in the original (english!) language

"you must choose the members of parliament that reflect your views on how to tackle the challenges we face, because what Europe does will affect you and your daily life."

And yes, I do believe that the existence of the EU makes life better for many of us.. Policy examples? Schengen rules..

This is of course the easiest way to question translation of Polish public radio. If you are so sure, please provide original quote in English. Then you will say that English is not his native language and thus we should ignore this comment. The EU have well established tradition of rejecting democratic choices that they dislike.

Do you think that result of referendums in Netherlands and France should be respected?
How many times the people of Ireland should vote on Lisbon treaty?

Well lesser the Irish are a stubborn people and will fight to the bitter end, so we could be in for a long haul.

I will vote for Crow.

The same thing we do every night Pinky, try to take over the world!

;)

I can't see that happening. I think that the most we can hope for is an end to some of the craziness. Even that seems a long way off.


Indeed.

Am I anti-european in terms of its people and culture etc No, of course not. Am I anti-european in terms of an open-door policy on immigration and so on ? Yes, very much so.


Didn't he top himself ?

In fact the more they are expected to vote yes, the more of them will vote No

Wojciech Cejrowski on the coming election (what a legend this man is :-D).

are you kidding me? it'd be 100 steps back... what an idiot...

Thank you very much for your balanced and insightful opinion.

i've never liked him... closed minded ass...

Well, I'm an honest European (or at least, I like to think that I am one :))
and I won't vote for UPR even though I completely agree with their economic
program.

I'll vote for Marek Jurek's PR, because he's the only man who represents my
point of view on things that are way more important than economy.
Like abortion for example - if you kill an innocent man, slaughter him in
cold blood, tore away his arms and legs with some steel tool of torture
and then dump his body in the garbage bin, then what the fvck do I care
what you think of income taxes or infrastructure?

First things first.

I'm studying long enough in Germany to vote here, my vote goes probably to "Die Linke" - which means "The Left" and not what one would suspect "Die you Lefties!" :) Strange German language.

I'm not really fond of this party so maybe I'll check some more radical party once I'm in the booth.

Sorry Lesser to have taken a little time to revert, but I only just received from Polskie radio the soundtrack of the original interview in english without the polish voiceover translation..

Here is what Barroso said exactly:

I of course respect all political preferences if they are democratic and of course I'm particularly close to those who are proeuropean

Now, doesn't this have a different meaning than:

Ale podkreślam: oczywiście, szanuję wszystkie polityczne wybory, jeśli są, oczywiście, demokratyczne i proeuropejskie.

or from its so called "translation":

However I underline: Obviously I respect all political choices, unless of course it is democratic and pro-European.

Incompetent translator or deliberate attempt at misquoting? I let you judge..

Centrolewica should do well here in Warsaw - and they've got some good candidates. They get my vote

I'm going to vote UKIP, its nice to know i can vote against europe without having to vote for the BNP. THe mainstream parties have showed me their worth and it isn't much. I've never really been pro europe, i understand there are pros and cons of being part of the European family, however i feel the UK needs to pick itself up let alone the smaller nations joining the EU.

I have provided reliable quote from mainstream source. Sorry but I have serious problem to believe in your words. I doubt that you bothered so much to ask them. I doubt even more that they would answer and I find it completely unbelievable that they sent you a soundtrack.

However if you claim to have this soundtrack, then this is very easy to upload it somewhere and post a link here. Currently this is only myself the one who provided a source. While you cannot back your accusations at all. Please do it.

How could I trust you if you refuse to answer to two simple questions. This is already third time and second thread when I ask you whether the EU should respect results of Dutch and French referendums and how many times the Irish should be forced to vote?

Does my weak English prevent you from understanding? Perhaps you prefer Polish version? Or German? Maybe Russian? :)


I meant that every honest European should mock Brussels bureaucrats because their are obvious liars.


Look, I don't care how you vote. I perfectly realize that with or without your vote neither UPR or PR 'qualify'. If I have any hopes about any elections it is all long gone. If I correct your statement this is not because election campaigning. UPR call itself to be conservative-liberal not without reason, they always opposed abortion. So there is no conflict here.


Could you write why do you prefer them over SLD or PPP?


You will not vote against Europe, you will vote against the EU. If you put equality sign between the EU and Europe many honest Europeans might be offended. Please be more sensitive...

That will be my reason for voting for them too.

It's not that I want people kicked out of the country or think that foreigners should be bowing and scraping at my feet, but I think that the mainstream parties (and especially the Government) need a real kick in the spuds. They need to be forced into listening what the British people think about their current policies on Europe and Labour's almost hatred of the British.


I'm not sure what you mean with that last bit.