What do Polish women think of feminism?

i really think same. they just miss a point, however.


i for one dont prefer to be forgiven.
if i have to pay, i pay.
is there any freedom to chose how to pay?

Those of us who have lived through the REALITY of feminism know and understand that it's about hating men. Here are some past quotes from leaders of the feminist movement:

* "We can't destroy the inequities between men and women until we destroy marriage." -- Robin Morgan

*"I claim that rape exists any time sexual intercourse occurs when it has not been initiated by the woman, out of her own genuine affection and desire."

-- Robin Morgan

* "To call a man an animal is to flatter him; he's a machine, a walking dildo."
-- Valerie Solanas, Authoress of the SCUM Manifesto

* "Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the women's movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage." -- Sheila Cronin, the leader of the feminist organization NOW

* "Heterosexual intercourse is the pure, formalized expression of contempt for women's bodies." -- Andrea Dworkin

*The institution of sexual intercourse is anti-feminist" -- Ti-Grace Atkinson

* "When a woman reaches orgasm with a man she is only collaborating with the patriarchal system, eroticizing her own oppression." -- Sheila Jeffrys

* "All sex, even consensual sex between a married couple, is an act of violence perpetrated against a woman." -- Catherine MacKinnon

* "The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race." -- Sally Miller Gearhart, in The Future - If There Is One - Is Female.

*""Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes gain from the experience." - Catherine Comins

There are plenty more quotes from powerful feminists who spew hate. The last quote suggests that false rape charges are ok. I'd be surprised of Polish women want to go the route of their western sisters once they know what feminism is really about.

Again, you are in the same grass. Zimmy, i said and proved above.
Again?

90% of all capitals in the world is owned by males.

Males should be Men first.

It's all about money.
Give their money first.
Be men.
See then.

To Zimmy:

You are right and thank for your points.

I do agree with you. Lesbians do have sex with men. I don't know why. Maybe lesbians wanted baby.

Feminism is the right to be a truck driver and be desired for that.

Lol, I mean what the hell do you even make out of something like this? This clown has actually been awarded a Phd? The Nazis said more or less the same things and were villified; Sally here is made heroic. This is the sad, pathetic state of American academia today.

Has anyone looked at the correlation that the majority of these feminists are typically lesbians? Are there any prominent feminists who are actually even attracted to men sexually on any level? None that I have heard of. I don't think Gloria Steinem was gay but that's about it.

I did check. That one is very gay.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_Miller_Gearhart

She would say that about men considering her sexual orientation.
Her PhD is in Theatre, by the way, where all the gays are, anyway.

now, you heard one. many of them are very atractive nice females.
only problem is that this sh*ty "male" (not man!) system not showing them how sexy they are.

Edited to say: better to say "baby males" instead of sh*ty

It's more about being a truck driver. If a woman wants a job as a truck driver, shouldn't she be allowed to have one?

Of course, you can do easily. Males think they doing heavy works. Whats hard to be a truck driver? It's only rotating steering wheel. Works now is only pressing on buttons, keys, etc. So simple.

Hardest work is to carry a baby in a body for months and give a birth.
Appreciation needed.
To eat, live and love are all i can do as a man.
And, to simplify works for females as much as possible.

"I feel what they feel: man-hating, that volatile admixture of pity, contempt, disgust, envy, alienation, fear, and rage at men. It is hatred not only for the anonymous man..... not only for the rapist or the judge who acquits him, but for ......... the men women share their lives with--husbands, lovers, friends, fathers, brothers, sons, coworkers."

-- Judith Levine, Authoress of My Enemy, My love

Feminists are wacky men-hating spoiled unhappy females. Those who exhibit hate because of their emotional 'feelings' have a pall about them.

Um, nomaderol, your satire lacks humor; it falls flat. Buy some joke books...

You are a joke enough, Zimmy. Let me not joke. My jokes hurt.


Zimmy,
This Judith too saying a truth.
All those words of feminists in your previous posts too are truths.
(they all are authors, journalists, etc etc. "have to say these truths" to be able to continue to get their good monthly food.)

Listen to big silence. (90% of them are women of the world.) Can you hear the silence?

Don't be part of this horrific system! Surrender your capital to women! Words,words, words. This is not enough, be a man of action! :)

years ago, i did. nothing left. only left is word. but, this is a one man action. not enough. now, this global economy crisis can be an oppurtunity to increase the number of men?

Not really. Some might be gay which makes them biased in favor of women, but there are plenty of gay men with lots of money who like men a lot more than they do the opposite gender.

What you call "feminists" are mostly married women with a family to support who has a husband who yells "I am sick of supporting you! Get a job!" so, naturally, since women are so smart, they want a job that pays them a lot of money so they can lovingly spend that money on their families (including the husband).

hmm... Do you consider yourself to be at least a bit of martyr?


Look at the brightest side of this situation. With increasing numbers of men, the number of harems would be significantly reduced.

Your provincial example is without merit. The modern feminist movement which began in 1963 (Betty Friedan) was and continues to be dominated by upper class and upper middle class women - in short, women who live in the upper 10 percent of society. These are the women who have written books, various articles, (skewed) studies, and the rules of feminism.

Indeed, it is feminism which has ousted women from the house not husbands. You seem to be unaware that philosophically feminists have looked down on women who stay at home and raise families.

Just a couple of feminist 'rules' (out of thousands) spoken or written by leading feminists:

Patricia Ireland when president of NOW knocked legislators for supporting such notions as marriage and family unity. (keep in mind she was the top feminist leader at the time).

From "Sisterhood Is Powerful," Robin Morgan (ed), 1970, p. 537: "We can't destroy the inequities between men and women until we destroy marriage."

A quote from the feminist manifesto; "The Declaration of Feminism," (November 1971) states; " The end of the institution of marriage is a necessary condition for the liberation of women. Therefore it is important for us to encourage women to

leave their husbands and not to live individually with men".

"Being a housewife is an illegitimate profession... The choice to serve and be protected and plan towards being a family-maker is a choice that shouldn't be. The heart of radical feminism is to change that" Vivian Gornick, feminist author, University of Illinois, "The Daily Illini," April 25, 1981.

The list goes on-and-on and indeed there are literally thousands (yes thousands) of such feminist statements and 'rules of feminism'. The surprise is that so many women seem unaware of them.

So the next time you blame men for kicking women out of the house so they can get a job somewhere perhaps, just perhaps, you'll think (not feel) about it.

And you seem to be unaware that most men want their girlfriends and wives to have jobs and this is what feminism is about. Women want to make the same amount of money men make and since so many men do not want to be the person soley responsible for providing funds for their family, including their wives, they insist their women find jobs. Most men hate the idea that women are sitting around the house in a protected environment day after day while they have to get up early and drive to work. They want women to do their fair share. Think about it this way. A woman could be sitting around at home wasting time earning nothing or, while her kids are at school and her husband is at work, she could be turning her hours into cash as well.

no. why shall i think so?


definitely.

btw, "males" (i use this term instead of men cause this "male" kind thinks they are the only ones with that thing between their legs hence targets of prostitutes), why are your minds triggered to "sex" quickly when you hear the word "women" and "money" together? question yourselves. Women "want"? ok. If you still insist on connecting money to sex immediately, think this way. Bosses consider all people at their companies whether males or females as "women" as all these people "want" money from bosses. Bosses f*ck you even "males" first and then give your money. Clear?

I've already pointed out what "feminism is about" by quoting leaders of this cult. You have referenced nothing but your personal opinion.

It is also noticeable that you have not commented on those feminist quotes which are in effect feminist instructions. Of course they are too embarrassing for feminist defenders like yourself but ignoring them does no justice to your (personal) opinion.

Feminism is about misandry (hatred of men) and it shows its ugly face over-and-again in many forms of declarations.

One of my favorites from a leading feminist,Catharine MacKinnon (google her); " In a patriarchal society, all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent."

Defend that!

The extremists always say dumb things. I am here to give a voice to all the little feminists.

You go girl!

I'll defend her. True. When most of patriarchal males doing sex with their wifes their wifes are counting flies on the net of spider at the room corner. These women have to stay silent due to fear as they are under pressure of such male society who dont have brain, but, physical body only. (btw, she did a good stirring by a truth. bravo.)

Oh no you don't. Google any of the names that go with the quotes I've given and you'll realize that these feminists are the 'heart and soul' of the feminist movement. For example, Ms.Catherine McKinnon teaches at the Univ. of Michigan and is a highly paid speaker who constantly speaks in front of hundreds of rabid females. She has also presented arguments in front of the U.S. Supreme Court.

The woman who said "Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes gain from the experience." (she justifies false rape accusations) is Catherine Comins, who was Vassar College Assistant Dean of Students. .......the list goes on and on and on......

We're talking about MAIN STREAM FEMINISTS who hold responsible positions in the general society.


Your "little feminists" need to know the full truth not what you want to believe it to be.

Sometime I am wondering if you all know your wife or husband well, I am saying they could be gay or lesbian. They are keeping it secrets from you. I don't know if you pay attentions to them when your partners go out alone to meet someone. They have unusual behaviors which you didn't noticed. They come home whenever they feel like.

Most of them stay in marriages because they loves their children and maybe their husbands or wives. If you know your partners if gay or lesbian and don't want to divorced you. Will you stay with her or him. Some leave their wife or husband. They will split custody of children on weekend or vacation time.

So you believe that "all heterosexual intercourse is rape". You are certainly 'special'.


You must be a female pretending to be a male otherwise you are the biggest mangina possible. Now go and clean your bedroom (or probably the hut you live in) of all those nasty spider webs.

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Krystal:"I am wondering if you all know your wife or husband well, I am saying they could be gay or lesbian."

In the U.S. men who are married but have love affairs with other men are known as living on the "down-low".

Zimmy, maybe, you had a bad past experience with a woman, but, face the reality. dirty power in the world, especially in this capitalist world is this male power. Consider these feminists as a workers movement against the dirty bosses.

ps: btw, there are much worse females than those feminists. be careful. just think about some "forced to sex" prostitutes. you cant know them easily. you know how they are forced to be prostitutes? a girl is kidnapped, put in a small room for a month, given a little meal only a day and many males come and go till she is used to. later, she is released under a control of a gang or taken to brothel. some years, she listen to her bosses. later.... she kills males. i heard such stories from many prostitutes. no, i never been with any prostitute. i never give them any money. just to make their bosses lose money as i can imagine most of money will be kept by their bosses.

Ge


Dirty power is pusssy power.Pusssy can pull a ship as we say in my country.

These New England women's colleges hardly represent most women. They are ivory league and very elitist. They are going to make detached utterances that haven't much to do with the situation of most women, married and needing money to support loved ones. The man and the woman, together, must come up with ways to pay for all the crap. The woman having access to the same amount of $$$ as her husband is the heart of feminist ideals.

Then I will become a gigolo.Give me this idea.