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California "Free Love" in Poland...


Philiosophe  
15 Jul 2007 /  #1
Hey Everyone,

I am a young (25), attractive(190cm, 95kg, athletic - long-ish california blonde hair), successful Californian currently in Gliwice for an undetermined period of time (my job tends to do this kind of thing to me...)

Back home, I am involved with an extremely progressive, liberal circle. Among our ideals is a very 'free love' mentality- I am currently engaged to a wonderful woman, but our engagement carries no understanding or promise of sexual monogamy. We consider sexuality a drive of our animalistic nature that is best left free to its own designs so that we can build our relationship on other, deeper things. We've been this way for four years now.

Now, here is the situation.

The first and most pressing barrier I've found is simply language. I have found that most local girls seem to perceive speaking English as a chore, and even during my interactions with local girls working in service industries (Hotel front desk, wait staff), they keep their lingual interactions with me short and to the point. This seems to be despite the fact that the girls strike me as being very approachable and friendly (Smiles and Glances are readily and warmly returned). But unlike other places I have traveled in Europe (Czech, Germany, Italy, Austria), There are never any follow up questions "Where are you from? How long will you be here?" even polite conversation. The other customers I meet at bars are even more so... Requests to speak english are flatly denied, although often with a sympathetic look. Its frustrating to say the least.

I have to admit that a huge part of the fault here lies with me being utterly incapable of speaking or understanding Polish. I am working, very hard at the moment to pick up at least the basic phrases, but Having only been here two days (and finding out I was coming the day before I left), my utter lack of Polish understanding definitely leaves tons to be desired.

So my first question is, any pointers to an English only speaker on how he could be more successful at stimulating conversation with local Polish? (Both men and women frankly... ITs tremendously difficult to just exist in a place where you cannot make platonic and friendly connections with the people around you).

The second issue is one that's a bit unique to me being so sexually liberal:

I have found Polish women to be, on the whole, extraordinarily sexually attractive. I love the 'natural beauty', it seems I have found the home of the ideal that women back home go under the knife to achieve. I would, of course, like to appreciate this beauty with more than my eyes... but, well, frankly, I'm at an utter loss as to where to begin, or if this is even feasible here.

My number one rule of sexuality is leave no regrets- positive sexuality the whole way. Thus I do not see sex as my 'conquest', I see it as a more passionate and deep manner in which to meet and become acquaintanted with locals. Obviously this flies much better in some places than others.

Being un-able so far to even cross the language barrier, however, I simply do not know how feasible this is in Poland... and what's worse, I'm nervous to even break the subject with the few girls I know who have been open and spoken with me lest I come off as a letch and loose the few personal connections I've made so far.

I know that women are diverse as a population, so any 'one size fits all' approach should be taken at face value... I was just wondering if I could get the opinions and thoughts of locals. Can a foreigner come to Poland and respectfully request sex without resorting to (the despicable practices in my mind) of playing games with overly inibriated women?

Is there any place for good old fashioned California "Free Love?"

Thank you to all who take the time to respond.
Daisy 3 | 1,227  
15 Jul 2007 /  #2
We've got a German guy here who likes to dress up as Betty Boop, you'll fit in just fine
OP Philiosophe  
15 Jul 2007 /  #3
lol...

While I know plenty of friends deep into the Fetish scene, that's not what I'm looking for;)

Thanks for the prompt reply.
Lady in red  
15 Jul 2007 /  #4
This forums getting quite liberal isn't it ? Like anything goes........

You could always put an ad in the local paper and wait for replies but I feel sure there may be a few more suggestions being made ......I think I've seen it all now on PF.

:)
Daisy 3 | 1,227  
15 Jul 2007 /  #5
I think I've seen it all now on PF.

Don't you just love it here? :)
Lady in red  
15 Jul 2007 /  #6
Absolutely, can't think anywhere else I'd rather be..........:)
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
15 Jul 2007 /  #7
I am involved with an extremely progressive, liberal circle.

Commies, tree huggers and of course perverts... dude, go to Sweden.
Daisy 3 | 1,227  
15 Jul 2007 /  #8
LOL...just when I thought the evening couldn't get any better :)
Lady in red  
15 Jul 2007 /  #9
go to Sweden.

Yeah .......
PolskaDoll 28 | 2,105  
15 Jul 2007 /  #10
go to Sweden.

Best idea I've heard
shopgirl 6 | 928  
15 Jul 2007 /  #11
But it is really expensive to live there.....
Daisy 3 | 1,227  
15 Jul 2007 /  #12
He doesn't want to pay.. it's free love ;)
shopgirl 6 | 928  
15 Jul 2007 /  #13
I read that a bottle of Absolut cost like 250 crowns! Who could live like that? :)
szarlotka 8 | 2,209  
15 Jul 2007 /  #14
I thought free love in CA disappeared after Woodstock. Well apart from maybe Monterey which is in a hippy time warp
Daisy 3 | 1,227  
15 Jul 2007 /  #15
Who could live like that? :)

probably explains all teh free love, they can't afford anything else
shopgirl 6 | 928  
15 Jul 2007 /  #16
This seems to be despite the fact that the girls strike me as being very approachable and friendly (Smiles and Glances are readily and warmly returned). But unlike other places I have traveled in Europe (Czech, Germany, Italy, Austria),

You really need to ask Southern about this......that is his area of expertise!
He will be around at some point....you two have a lot to chat about! ;)
Daisy 3 | 1,227  
15 Jul 2007 /  #17
Well apart from maybe Monterey which is in a hippy time warp

and Glastonbury..you should stand outside the post office there on pension day.. all the original hippies collecting their pensions
szarlotka 8 | 2,209  
15 Jul 2007 /  #18
You really need to ask Southern about this......that is his area of expertise!
He will be around at some point....you two have a lot to chat about! ;)

LMAO - Could be a HUGE thread if those two get going together
Lady in red  
15 Jul 2007 /  #19
Well, I'm going to eavesdrop then I may learn something new
Daisy 3 | 1,227  
15 Jul 2007 /  #20
you might want to slap them, Southern is such a misogynist
Lady in red  
15 Jul 2007 /  #21
you might want to slap them

I'm a bit shy Daisy :(

Now if I were drunk, like you...........
Daisy 3 | 1,227  
15 Jul 2007 /  #22
Now if I were drunk, like you...........

here.. I've got a spare bottle
Lady in red  
15 Jul 2007 /  #23
I don't know what we are going to do with you daisy.............<grin>

I can't drink at the moment and one of us has to stay sober just in case...........
OP Philiosophe  
15 Jul 2007 /  #24
Wow... ok, this thread ran away from me while I was out for dinner... (I didn't realize how active this forum was).

I'm sorry if this is an inappropriate forum to ask these questions, I do not mean to offend in any way.

Yeah, I'm weird, I know;)

Free love is certainly not dead... its just, a bit more selective of a community now... I dunno, I'm trying to figure out a way to say that without coming off as a conceited ass...

I don't know if there is one.

Anyways, I am amused by the joshing, and hell, I'm open to answering any questions you guys may have... but nevertheless, it would be nice if someone could at least begin to answer my original question:-P.

(and please... to say I have the utmost respect for the power of women would be an understatement... hell, here I am at mercy to it... I am hardly a misogynist).
shopgirl 6 | 928  
15 Jul 2007 /  #25
Like I said before....wait for Southern.....he has much to teach you.....kind of like Yoda.
Must be patient.....wait for the force.
szarlotka 8 | 2,209  
15 Jul 2007 /  #26
Must be patient.....wait for the force.

Whoa - don't build our CA man's hopes up.
OP Philiosophe  
15 Jul 2007 /  #27
Ok, I must admit I'm a tad more interested in the opinion of Polish women than I am the opinion of a man you hold in such... odd regard.

No offense to anyone intended.
szarlotka 8 | 2,209  
15 Jul 2007 /  #28
No offense to anyone intended.

None taken - it's a lively crowd on here this evening/afternoon.
OP Philiosophe  
15 Jul 2007 /  #29
Indeed I've notice... I was thinking about heading back out tonight, but i'm halfway tempted to stick around and witness the fun...
Lady in red  
15 Jul 2007 /  #30
No offense to anyone intended.

None taken - it's a lively crowd on here this evening/afternoon.

Agreed. We're just pulling your leg Philly :)

Very lively tonight.

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