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Why are more Polish girls marrying Americans?


Matowy - | 295  
15 Aug 2009 /  #31
that a man should take care of a woman because she's weak and delicate...? ;)

I don't think that's true (that men must take care of women), but I do think it's true that women are often more delicate than men. Women resort to senseless emotional responses all too easily. Discussing anything of worth with a woman when she's in one of her emotional fits is near-impossible.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808  
15 Aug 2009 /  #32
depends if you want to be happy or do the right thing...

Is that true?.
i mean happiness is not a continuous state.
We are hot, we jump in to the water, we are happy, we get cold, we get out of the water, we are happy.
some times doing the right thing is the best.
Ah, this is a futile argument, there are not enough details to come to any concrete conclusion.
And it still annoys me.

Discussing anything of worth with a woman when she's in one of her emotional fits is near-impossible.

Yep but again, it was not my intention to draw this particular divide.
My point and perhaps the point of the original poster, is about culture not sex.
Babinich 1 | 455  
15 Aug 2009 /  #33
some times doing the right thing is the best.

Sometimes?
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535  
15 Aug 2009 /  #34
that a man should take care of a woman because she's weak and delicate...? ;)

The woman takes care of the man too. The children too.

If the man takes care of the woman and children aswell, this is no stereotype. We have different roles in the social structure. We also have a free mind/will though ... but when we tresspass our boundaries....or try to get something that we are not supposed to get... we end up in a ditch.

For a woman, her man (husband) is and should be the person she looks up at. And for the man, the woman is and should be his lifes most important/valuable and strong influence.

Children...are best when they are fruits of love and attentiveness.

Fruits in the garden, carefully planted and selected, are sweet.
Fruits which grow in the wild, often unwanted or just plain accident... are often sour, bitter and ... ofcourse... wild.
Patrycja19 63 | 2,699  
15 Aug 2009 /  #35
beating and cheating aren't only reasons for people to split up... maybe they were just not for each other... and who knows, she may be getting over it easier then him... women are stronger then men, even tho the stereotype says otherwise...

I agree here.

not to mention all those people from other countries who want to get married to
become citizens in the U.S. and divorce soon as they can, with no strings attached.

If it was up to a man to push an apple out of his penis, the human race would be over.

lmao

My point and perhaps the point of the original poster, is about culture not sex.

good call.

Well he will be cheered up by his buddies and it is common enough in the U.S. (am I being a dick?).

yes, because hes prob going to put a smile on for his friends but how do you know
deep down hes not feeling any pain ?
how many men do you know actually show their feelings outright in front of all their
buddies? or any of their friends?? maybe when they are alone with one of
their very very close friends whom they trust with everything they tell them.

my husbands friend is going thru a stage, he will ask me advice, then when all the guys
are around, hes all happy, drinking beer, talkin **** about his girl, but when everyone leaves, he gets tears in his eyes and he shows his real side and wants to know what he

is doing wrong, but calls her the big b.

its just a show.. reality is they all hurt, she does , he does. they just put on their
happy face and move on. what else can they do?
johncardwell 3 | 110  
15 Aug 2009 /  #36
I would be curious to know what the girl's expectations are in these cases?
I would also be curious to know what the guy's expectations are in these cases?

SzwedwPolsce: Polish girls (and boys) can choose who they want to marry.
You can not decide who someone else should marry.

According to who, you?
Who are you to make such a strong and in my opinion ideologically naive statement?

Why?
Bad marriages and children of divorce lead to social pollution.
Witness what has happened in the USA.

Maybe it should be regulated.
Mandatory pre-marriage counseling and mandatory pre-children counseling.
Maybe most marriages in high divorce countries should have been/should be discouraged.
SzwedwPolsce 11 | 1,595  
15 Aug 2009 /  #37
According to who, you?

According to the world we live in. Look at the history, liberalism always wins in the end. Always. And you know it. Sometimes the change is slow. But for centuries the world has always become more liberal. Episodes with less liberalism have only existed temporarily.

I'm not pro-100%-liberalism. I think liberalism and conservatism should be in equilibrium. But it's a fact that liberalism always wins in the end, even if it takes long time. The history proves it. And the best way to predict the future is to look at the history.

But I agree with you that some of the über-liberal parents are dangerous for their children and the society. I think of deviant behaviour such as criminality et cetera.
PlasticPole 7 | 2,649  
15 Aug 2009 /  #38
I would be curious to know what the girl's expectations are in these cases?
I would also be curious to know what the guy's expectations are in these cases?

To fall in love, get married and have a life? Just a guess.
johncardwell 3 | 110  
15 Aug 2009 /  #39
You proved my point perfectly.
Not one word about duty, hard work, and commitment.
And what one must lose when one marries.
A completely unrealistic and childish notion of marriage.
Just like a Disney fairy-tale.
PlasticPole your name is well-chosen.
PlasticPole 7 | 2,649  
15 Aug 2009 /  #40
"Have a life" covers the duty, hard work and commitment. You don't think love matters in marriage? Maybe not to someone in an arranged one.
johncardwell 3 | 110  
15 Aug 2009 /  #41
PlasticPole: "Have a life" covers the duty, hard work and commitment.

BS... You made that up to cover yourself.

PlasticPole: You don't think love matters in marriage? Maybe not to someone in an arranged one.

Who made these statements?

You are using cheap rhetoric.

Give it up.

Just like the name says you are "plastic pole."
PlasticPole 7 | 2,649  
15 Aug 2009 /  #42
Not much of an answer. If this is your idea of having a conversation no wonder you are such a hit with the womens :D
johncardwell 3 | 110  
15 Aug 2009 /  #43
In your opinion not much of an answer.
But who are you?

Conversation?
With who, you?
Why?

Do you think you have something to offer that I am interested in?
After all you are a "plastic pole", yes?
SzwedwPolsce 11 | 1,595  
15 Aug 2009 /  #44
mandatory pre-children counseling.

I agree with you on that one.

But you didn't comment what I wrote, so I suppose you agree.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808  
15 Aug 2009 /  #45
Sometimes?

Yes, you read my comment correctly, "sometimes".

We would get a lot more out of this forum if you would elaborate and not just quote some words from me, repeat one of them and put a question mark.

So you have a question?.

"The right thing" for who or for what?.
Sometimes it is not clear what the right thing is.
Other times you think you are doing the right thing but it causes more harm than good or simply does not have the desired effect, so yes sometimes.

I could write an essay on it and still not answer your question, if indeed you have one at all.

If you have something to say, just say it otherwise this is pointless.
johncardwell 3 | 110  
15 Aug 2009 /  #46
SzwedwPolsce:

Liberalism in what context?
Allowing people to freely marry and have children that they don't stay together for?
Allowing women to take off with the children and depriving them of a father's presence?
Allowing something as superficial and temporary as infatuation to be the basis of a marriage?

Just in the last few years has the effects of a lazze faire attitude to marriage, divorce, and children finally become acknowledged in the USA.

Of all the things to ruin one's culture this is probably the most significant.
Because it permeates one's entire existence.

In my opinion it is too late for the USA to recover from it.
I believe "deformed culture" caused by the social cancer is permanent.

But in the meantime it is a long and painful death for the patient (USA).
If the Latin Catholics and Asians continue to grow and there is some opposition to the social forces by the Muslims in the USA, you might have some recovery.

But the caucasians and blacks are toast.
I will pose to you this question.

What does a white working class guy really have to look forward to in the USA?
Good work?
A good family life?

Tell me what.
Wroclaw Boy  
15 Aug 2009 /  #47
anger_lodz:
are Americans better than us?
Well considering you are talking about the European descendants in the U.S.A., the question and answer is, are we better than us

Behind every American is a Brit just crying to be let out.
scrappleton - | 829  
15 Aug 2009 /  #48
But the caucasians and blacks are toast.

Yawwn.. Wow, that's certainly some startling news there, Chicken Little.
johncardwell 3 | 110  
15 Aug 2009 /  #49
In your opinion.

And is it someone else's job to entertain you?

Only stupid people expect that unless they pay for it.

So now that you've made your criticism, why don't you add something that you think is substantial?

That is, if you can.

Can you?

Or are you just an armchair critic?
SzwedwPolsce 11 | 1,595  
15 Aug 2009 /  #50
What does a white working class guy really have to look forward to in the USA?
Good work?
A good family life?

I have never lived in USA, so I can't answer the question. But are you saying that there are no white working class guys with a good job and family life? I find that hard to believe.
scrappleton - | 829  
15 Aug 2009 /  #51
Or are you just an armchair critic?

Well, at least I'm not an armchair defeatist. You know, as I actually live here, I know quite a few blue collar people with nice homes, families that don't live in absolute squalor. Electricians, carpenters, contractors, construction people, house framers, remodelers.. they usually get a decent wage.

So now that you've made your criticism, why don't you add something that you think is substantial?

Based on the majority of your dippy posts, I can easily say the same for you.

Do us a favor Johnny, stay in Europe.
johncardwell 3 | 110  
15 Aug 2009 /  #52
SzwedwPolsce: I have never lived in USA, so I can't answer the question. But are you saying that there are no white working class guys with a good job and family life? I find that hard to believe.

Of course not all.
It means majority.
OP anger_lodz 1 | 4  
18 Aug 2009 /  #53
I'm glad that you guys are puting in your thoughts on this topic. i know everyone has every right to chose whom to marry and whom to love. but since i've been noticing this matter over a period of time, i become very sad. and beling a Polish man, i have every right to think about our people, i'm not a moral police here, just feeling bad and empathetic about our fellows. is this bad thinking?
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535  
18 Aug 2009 /  #54
is this bad thinking

No.

I have an idea. You go marry a Brazilian :) ...
OP anger_lodz 1 | 4  
18 Aug 2009 /  #55
I'll surely marry my sweetheart.... and she is from Lodz.... :)
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535  
18 Aug 2009 /  #56
she is from Lodz

:) ...

So am I. But I would rather wait for my sweetheart.

I had once, but she wasnt Polish... I dunno now. I wonder really ... but time will show :)
southern 75 | 7,096  
18 Aug 2009 /  #57
You go marry a Brazilian :) ...

And race mix because some polish girls make stupid choices?
Danilo81 - | 1  
18 Aug 2009 /  #58
I don't like american ppl from USA coz they are so arrogance and hipocrecy. Polish women probably marrying guys from usa because they want something good, american life? but they don't that in Europe life is better, Usa probably for holidays or not. Anyway polish women there still also men from others countries,like italians, spanish, polish, south americans...etc....
Mr Grunwald 31 | 2,079  
19 Aug 2009 /  #59
According to the world we live in. Look at the history, liberalism always wins in the end. Always. And you know it. Sometimes the change is slow. But for centuries the world has always become more liberal. Episodes with less liberalism have only existed temporarily.

I'm not pro-100%-liberalism. I think liberalism and conservatism should be in equilibrium. But it's a fact that liberalism always wins in the end, even if it takes long time. The history proves it. And the best way to predict the future is to look at the history.

But I agree with you that some of the über-liberal parents are dangerous for their children and the society. I think of deviant behaviour such as criminality et cetera.

How you look at hisotry and how you think that current state of the world will be unchanged or even "better" then now... is truely very naive.

Read some more history and you will know that things go up&down
krysia 23 | 3,057  
19 Aug 2009 /  #60
because i can't see those girls are coming back later with tears in their eyes, broken heart. after all they are Polish.

You know why? Because the Americans found out they were only used to get a green card. But of course nobody will hear the other side of the story, it's always the "poor Polish girl" or the "poor Polish guy". Nobody forced them to marry an American. They wanted a green card and it didn't work out, so blame the American.

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