A Polish Priest lying about freemasons

Sheep like far right thoughts in there purest form lol
ugh,disgusting tory boys from other countries,yuk,thought they all died with maggie thatchers last 6 brain cells.You just know this guy will have been an informent in the old days,just like the ex stasi in germany they are the ones distancing themselves the furthest from their old lives.....

LOL


Respect for Maggie!

Yep,thats what I'll say as I pee on her freshly dug grave.....though,with the que that will form I may be bouncing like tigger by the time I get my go.

Ive really always been interested in just what makes someone so coldly right wing? Were you not shown enough love as a small child? Why do you think that only poor people are socialists?Why is everyone left of Hitler a danger for you? What is it you fear ? Why are rightwingers always so scared ?Is it a secret inferiority complex?Why the Im all right jack mentality,is it greed ,surly one of the seven deadly sins and a bit frowned on in certain circles.....

You have no respect to the greatest British politician in the recent history. If you want to discuss mentioned issues you need to start new thread.

He's in the queue behind me, except I'll be having "a number 2".

Lesser, did u live under Thatcher? Give the poll tax a rating of 1-10 please. By ANY CRITERIA. Popularity, effectiveness, whatever. She drank Scotch, that's the best thing she ever did

Nice ad hominem fallacy! Ur a socialist so u must b wrong! =) u once more prove that that u have no concept of rational thought. There are no instances of freemasonry harming catholicism in any of the links u have and 2 of them have nothing to do with the topic of freemasonry during the revolution. Buddy all it says is there were conflicts between the church and the masons who wanted separation of church and state.

I haven't wrote anything like that but as far as economy is concentrated this is correct.


Your problem is that you don't really want to learn about the subject and even if I would put evidence on your nose, you would still did not notice. I know that in the US they don't teach much of history of Europe but if you would want you could do it a bit on your own. Same fact that the church oppose masonry does give you an idea that they must have some reason to do it.

btw Those who want to discuss unrelated topics should really open new threads.

Well the church opposes alot of things with no logical reason behind it. Birth control is opposed by the church because its unnatural. However most things we do nowadays are unnatural like flying in planes. Thats another illogical statement. If u hate rich people u must b socialist lol. I hate rich people and im not socialist so there goes ur theory. **** i am rich my dad probably makes more in a month than ur entire family tree does in 10 yrs. He's a lobbyist ;). Don't rag on my education im in a good univ and doing quite well thank u very much!

If we were in a regulated debate right now at my univ this would have been over a long time ago when u said. "every1 knows about the freemasons hurting the church so i don't have to provide evidence" =) followed by a bunch of off topic rhetoric. Ur just making me think poles r dumber by the minute b/c u don't realize when u have lost.

I'm so impressed, this must be the greatest success in your life. Shame on my family.


You will become the perfect example of 'wykształciuch', paper means nothing, knowledge is valued.

did you actually read my profile?? maybe you don't speak polish.. hmmm anyway.. there are a few things about pl culture i can't stand.. almost all other EU nations as well as USA seem to be missing that one bad trait.. others must be lessened as they aren't that prominent. and before you ask me what the one bad thing is.. i alluded to it on this page.

things seem to be getting better in PL though and i am hoping that everything will be peachy with the next gernerations growing up.

Im a freemason buddy. I possess knowledge u cannot ever possess unless u 2 ask12b1 and recieve ur 1st degree. U also possess knowledge I can never possess b/c i have never been in ur situation. =) Neither I nor u can become aware all of the information the other knows so making statements like the one u just did is rather pointless. A degree is tangible evidence of wat u know or have known. I cite my univ experience as an example of wat i know.

IT takes $ and time to go to a univ and get that piece of paper so obviously it isn't worthless. It enables me to apply for high paying jobs so i think that proves it isn't worthless. However worth is wat u make of it. In my community a person who has a degree will earn a higher salary than one without. So if worth is measured in $ then yes it has worth. So how are u measuring worth? I can't help but wonder.......

Wow, well aren't you the modest man, eh? "Brotherly Love, Relief, and Truth" Are they not the principles of free masonry? Well then. Look at what you have done since you signed up here at PF. What the hell kind of free mason are you then? Not a very good one, it seems like. I don't give a damn if you have a better education than me, and have more dough, all that matters to me is what concerns me, not bloody twats like you throwing words and believing yourself above everyone else.

Furthermore, you started a thread attacking the Polish church and its stance on Freemasonry. Is there not such a thing as the Masonic Bible which freemasons use? It has no particular conception of a God. Would you not think that this may be tied to the stance of the Catholic Church? If you are so concerned with how people view Freemasons, why aren't you out on the streets, voicing your opinion? Why come on Polish forums?

pwn3d!

well done filios

Im not sure why a Freemason would even give a toss about what the church said seems like a lot of hot air for no real reason!]

I know several guys who are in that special club and its no big deal - charity work ect and a bit of back scratching - nothing to shout home about

Its hard to keep my composure together when dealing with people who live in ignorance. Have u read a masonic bible? If it has no conception of a god then there is also no conception of a god in ur bible as well as they are one in the same. All arguments that have been given to me lack any real evidence they r all just a bunch of rumors and outright lies. I started this thread showing how oftentimes the church lies. I know these things to b lies there is a difference between a fact and an opinion.

Opinion-freemasonry is bad

Fact in the yr 19... a freemason was convicted of blah blah blah

Opinion freemasonry is from the devil.....

Fact- They played a role in seperation of church and state in france during the revolution.

U have a very skewed concept of wat i was exactly going for in my post. How am i not following the 4 principles? I am spreading the truth! =) The truth is the priest i know and the polish people that live in my town believe his outright lies that insight hate against freemasons. I don't think this should b taken lightly. Im perfectly fine with the churchs stance on freemasonry however im not fine with then lying about things to make people hate eachother. Oh and the brotherly love applies to brothers only aka "freemasons".

Are you giving it, receiving it, or both?


"Warm" brothers in other words.

Since you have a girlfriend too, if you were a shotgun you would be a double barrel.

Again. You are spreading your "masonic" love to us all.


No. You're spreading utter bollocks.


Well, maybe you should be concentrating on this town, and the priest? Do you lack the courage to go talk to him, face to face? Rather, you come on this forum and speak indirectly. Go arrange for some air time, and broadcast yourself for the town, and let them know what free masonry is all about.

I myself have never heard the church preach against free masons, in any shape or form, and I frequent church quite often.


So? How do you know who is a free mason or not on the internet? For all you know, you're acting like a complete jerk off to a bunch of free masons on this forum. So this brotherly love is only applied to when you and your lads get together in some dark basement? What on earth do you guys do down there?

In case you didn't see, there was also "Relief." So the free masons give to charity, but they do not share any affection or "love for your fellow man?"

LOL, OK!


What in this forum is very visible are such foreigners from the start biased towards the church (especially Brits due to old Irish problem). They come to Poland with this attitude, of course never attend any masses and have absolutely no contact with any clergy. However they heard something from somebody about some misbehavior of priests or total domination of the church over Polish public opinion. Of course such "knowledge" fits to their vision which they brought to Poland from the UK. They hear only what they want to hear.

I also somehow cannot recall any priests talking about masonry during the masses.

I was confirmed as a catholic buddy ur asssuming again! I went to mass for 16 yrs lol. Ive seen priests slander masons lol. I am no longer catholic due to this and other reasons i episcopalian. I mean come on the church doesn't approve of birth control! I was given a no birth control lecture by 3 guys who each had less than 3 kids with one of them having only one. That is hypocrisy at its finest! Either every 1 of them is in the vast minority of the male population that has reproductive problems or they used effective birth control. The rhythm method doesn't work buddy just take a basic anatomy class and u will learn how improbable it would b to limit urself to 3 or less kids using the rythm method over 20 yrs of marriage.

There is some serious inconsistence in your posting. Firstly you empathized that Polish priest lying about masons and seemed to be outraged that something like this goinjg on in Poland.


and now you claim that you were a church going Catholic who have seen priests (I assume, in the US ) slander masons. If you have seen this more than once in the US, so why you were so surprised by this Polish phenomena?


In my opinion either whole your story is fake or at least you decided to upgrade it. What is the point Rocky?

Very good point lesser. I'd like to know the answer..

What do you know about it, apart from something you read on the net!


How on earth do you know?


Fucktard!

I might not know any details but this is not a discussion related to British-Irish history. I have the right to suspect that this is reason of this animosity to the Catholic Church among many Brits. If you have different theory I would be interested.



Rocky posted his thread and three Brits plus one Aussie of British decent were quick to confirm him about how bad CC is. This is even funny, did you heard about Pavlov's dogs syndrome?

Below is your approach from other thread. How do you know that? Where did you learned to think in this way?

and you don't see the bunk of that?

the other thing is.. you're bound to have major problems in poland being this pushy about Freemasonry.. they aren't all that well liked here either.. there is just too much fishy stuff floating about that is related to the masons.

lol ,lesser just likes the sound of his own voice....what the heck...his logic says "Brits hate Catholics,coz of Ireland.." what a mumpty,has he any idea just how many "brits" are Catholics? He obviously has no idea at all about life in Britain ,displayed by his reverence for the evil bi tch who will hopefully be dead by the end of this year....ding dong the witch is nearly dead :) and lol at crow's alter ego cromagnon man or whatever has turned up again :)

At least the boys are spared. :)


You're missing the point. It has nothing to do with being 'unnatural'.

Roman Catholic Church and the Freemasonry have always been at odds with each other.
When you're in the Catholic Church you're supposed to put God in as your ultimate authority hence dictators like Stalin and Hitler despised the church while

your organisation perhaps puts other things as being more important than God, say
secret pledges and what have you. Now I don't even care about the Freemasons but I'm telling you this to calm your nerves so that you can get over this and post some

cooler stuff instead. :)