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Help wanted with the Polish law; she got pregnant and returned to Poland


lorenzo 1 | -  
18 Feb 2008 /  #1
I had a girlfriend from Polen who was getting a deforce, she did get pregnant from me and left back to Poland.
She tells me that as soon the baby will born she will tell me if i may see it or not, we did not fight she did left because here fam told here she will lose all if she stays with me(home in Poland and fam) what can i do to be a real dad for my(our) child ?

Is it possible to fight in court ? because she is still married
legallegal - | 4  
18 Feb 2008 /  #2
Hi, Lorenzo

You can contact me at: info@legalandcapital.com to discuss you matter. We provide services both for individuals and businesses regarding Polish law.

Regards
RockyMason 19 | 250  
22 Feb 2008 /  #3
Well thats y u use a condom and the pill! Or abort it!
TwojSzef - | 9  
22 Feb 2008 /  #4
of course it's possible to fight but Polish courts always say the mother has right
JustysiaS 13 | 2,240  
22 Feb 2008 /  #5
Well thats y u use a condom and the pill! Or abort it!

well sometimes they dont work. youre probably a split condom accident baby yourself. live a little first before you even attempt to give people advice. youre pathetic.
RockyMason 19 | 250  
22 Feb 2008 /  #6
=) ad hominem and ad ignorantium fallacy at its finest. =D Go get a college degree before you even attempt to destroy my credibility. Just b/c im young doesn't mean that my advice is wrong! Also abortions work everytime unless they r in the last trimester which makes it illegal!
RJ_cdn - | 267  
22 Feb 2008 /  #7
before you even attempt to destroy my credibility.

What makes you think that you had one aroud here?
RockyMason 19 | 250  
22 Feb 2008 /  #8
Um RJ I don't see wat your going for? Well wat I meant to say if ur gonna try to prove something at least know basicl logic! Don't spew out a bunch of predjudiced biased crap about some1s age or life experience. U don't need to experience something to give advice on it! Thats like saying a doctor needs to have had cancer to treat it.
RJ_cdn - | 267  
22 Feb 2008 /  #9
U don't need to experience something to give advice on it!

No you don’t. Unfortunately in some of your statements you do come across as a complete ignorant.
RockyMason 19 | 250  
22 Feb 2008 /  #10
Wat am I ignorant of? Can u tell me? If u know that I am ignorant then u must know something i do not.
RJ_cdn - | 267  
22 Feb 2008 /  #11
Sorry kid, I am not in the mood to argue with you right now.
RockyMason 19 | 250  
22 Feb 2008 /  #12
Oh HAHAHAHAHAHAHA so u won't tell me because u cannot tell me at this point in time..... so let me deduce this proof here

1. If one is ignorant then
2 it would imply he isn't knowledgeable of the subject being discussed which would imply he is lacking some information.

1 to prove one is ignorant u must then present the person with the information that is lacked.

=D So im not ignorant! Ur ignorant of ignorance! =D hahahahaha
RJ_cdn - | 267  
22 Feb 2008 /  #13
hahahahaha

Thats the spirit.:)
Softsong 5 | 495  
23 Feb 2008 /  #14
Well, Rocky, we are not debating if abortion works. Lorenzo seems to want to be a part of his child's life. He may not have planned on the pregnancy, but he seems to want the baby. And even if he did not want the child....what good is it to chide him that he should have done this or that. In this case, happily he wants to be a Dad. That is why everybody dislikes the advice Rocky gave. He may have a lot of "knowledge" but he behaving in an igorant, manner by not being sensitive to the spirit of the original poster. Good luck, Lorenzo.
z_darius 14 | 3,968  
23 Feb 2008 /  #15
get a college degree before you even attempt to destroy my credibility.

You have neither.

Just b/c im young doesn't mean that my advice is wrong!

I am generally against abortions, but looking at your posts my position on it becomes increasingly weak.

Don't spew out a bunch of predjudiced biased crap about some1s age or life experience. U don't need to experience something to give advice on it!

Perhaps not, but you do need to give advice someone seeks. lorenzo didn't ask for advice about abortion.

I'm afraid that even a college degree won't help you a whole lot if you insist on answering questions nobody asked.
RockyMason 19 | 250  
23 Feb 2008 /  #16
LOL well he was wondering how to get rid of a problem. I gave him a solution it might not have been the one he was looking for but still relevant to the situation! Also if he used a rubber it could have prevented it lol.
Mufasa 19 | 358  
23 Feb 2008 /  #17
Regarding the abortion thing, let's play an if-game Rocky: If it were possible for you to understand what abortion is while you were still in your mother's womb, and they were considering aborting you, how would that have made you feel?

Just a question ;) I don't want you to answer it here, or to come up with the rational 'yes but I wasn't and all that' - just to think about in this IF sense ;)
MareGaea 29 | 2,752  
23 Feb 2008 /  #18
Lorenzo, if you want to be a real father you should make sure that the lady has enough means to bring up the child decently. This means sending money or whatever is necessary. And if it's just the family that forbids her to show you the baby; well, there are plenty of ways to get around that - her family is not around all the time, you know. If she is afraid of her family I would say that she should choose: her family or, if she loves you, you and be prepaired to bear the consequences.

M-G
Mufasa 19 | 358  
23 Feb 2008 /  #19
I would say that she should choose: her family or, if she loves you, you and be prepaired to bear the consequences.

sounds nice, but unfortunately life isn't always as black and white as this :|
JustysiaS 13 | 2,240  
23 Feb 2008 /  #20
Go get a college degree before you even attempt to destroy my credibility

sorry to dissapoint you but im not as stupid and uneducated as you might think. you dont need a degree to consider yourself smart and credible, what sort of credibility on this forum do you think you have? do you know what credibility is and what you have to do in order to earn it? youre just some silly kid with a college degree, its hypocritic and ignorant of you to tell people things like that, you have no idea about it. contraception, if used properly, is very good but it sometimes fails. and abortion is murder and im not saying that cos im RC, its wrong and i couldnt go through with it and then live with myself even if i was an atheist. are you qualified or exerienced on this topic? you dont need to have cancer to be a doctor and cure other peoples cancer, but they are qualified to do that, and i seriously doubt you have a degree in family planning. so cut the bullsh*t about you being credible. you should get over yourself kid.
RockyMason 19 | 250  
23 Feb 2008 /  #21
U lack credibility b/c u think abortion is murder! Under Roe Vs Wade its not its perfectly fine! U don't respect state laws! Oh and regarding the if i was an aborted fetus i wouldn't think or feel nething! They can't feel nething they r unconcious!
jones101 1 | 349  
23 Feb 2008 /  #22
Abortion is dependent on two things...the belief system of the person considering it and the laws of the country they wish to have it in (and the latter can be worked around)

What it is NOT dependent on in the least is the opinion of people on the internet or anywhere else for that matter.

I know that infuriates some of you to no end...but it is life :)
Mufasa 19 | 358  
23 Feb 2008 /  #23
Oh and regarding the if i was an aborted fetus i wouldn't think or feel nething! They can't feel nething they r unconcious!

You have a lot to learn my boy :)

I was also a wise ass a long time ago - not very proud of it now. You'll also learn - I bloody well hope so!
JustysiaS 13 | 2,240  
23 Feb 2008 /  #24
U lack credibility b/c u think abortion is murder!

i never asked for any credibility - i dont need it, i just wanted you to open your eyes and see that you havent got any, either. abortion is not perfectly fine, unless youre a spoilt, immature moron who doesnt want to take responsibility for their actions and kill something that would be a person one day. i dont need laws to know whats right and whats wrong.

What it is NOT dependent on in the least is the opinion of people on the internet or anywhere else for that matter.

yeah say that to rockymason, he thinks his opinion is inevitable to just about anybody, cos he's got a DEGREE and he knows what hes talking about. ha ha so sad.
jones101 1 | 349  
23 Feb 2008 /  #25
Yeah because you Mufasa KNOW for a fact that a fetus feels the abortion. You know this no more than he knows they don't.

Hypocrites on both sides of the coin.
Shawn_H  
23 Feb 2008 /  #26
if i was an aborted fetus i wouldn't think or feel nething! They can't feel nething they r unconcious!

Correction: They are dead and cannot feel anything (because they are dead). A fetus in the womb does feel. Have you ever watched the films of the fetus being attacked during an abortion? They attempt to defend themselves / reach out to the areas being attacked. Pain, maybe being felt?
jones101 1 | 349  
23 Feb 2008 /  #27
Or maybe a nervous system reflex.

Just sayin...
Mufasa 19 | 358  
23 Feb 2008 /  #28
Yeah because you Mufasa KNOW for a fact that a fetus feels the abortion. You know this no more than he knows they don't.

No I DONT know that. Nobody knows that and the experts have struggled over the question for years and years. I would be an arrogant ass to claim that I know that. I just tried to turn thought in another direction - just to say to this young guy that other opinions - valid ones whether you agree with them or not - exist on this world, except his own.

Why are you so angry?
jones101 1 | 349  
23 Feb 2008 /  #29
If you saw my smiling face you could not imagine I am angry :)
Shawn_H  
23 Feb 2008 /  #30
nervous system reflex

Then it must "feel" in order to have a nervous system reflex.

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