Is there anything worse than Polish rap?

Having listened to the Russian hip hop clip attached a few posts back, Im gonna have to listen to some Run DMC to sooth my ears :)

i just got given the new jazzmatazz album with guru... as good as he always was!

if you want to understand what real hip hop is all about then give it a listen

Hold on a minute.

Polish rap is bad????????????WHAT

It is just brilliand and I love it, of all raps in the world polish is the best one. Rhymes, words, music all is brilliant and they actually can talk/sign about something else, more deep than just woman and crime :/

Just listen to this:

@joepilsudski : You think you can slag off my favourite musicians and get away with it by proclaiming your admiration for old greats like hendrix et al? Forget it dude. It takes more courage for someone to admit their liking for modern bands which are not yet considered legends or old-time greats. Anyone can say they like Miles Davis or The Who and get away sounding like music connoiseurs. But for someone who says they like the Beastie Boys, Pearl Jam, Foo Fighters, or any other modern band... oh be prepared to get slagged off by self-righteous smart-asses all round. Its an old trick, but I know it.

You write in a fuzzy roundabout way, embellishing your sentences with flowery terms and place annoying apostrophes around words which you are incapable of expressing with proper vocabulary. In the end you just sound like someone who hadn't got a proper education - but then again, you'll probably explain it away as "because you don't want a proper education because its all institutionalised and you hate institutions, blah blah blah"... You sound like one who's learnt how to piece sentences together using random phrases picked up from reading aldous huxley, kafka, etc. over the years. Damn its not even worth wasting time on a discussion with you. Its like listening to a broken record. Over and over. You are the one who sounds most like a rap record. And I mean rap as in the RAP that most people understand it to be - not as in your silly classifications as "early days rap" or "modern commercialised crap rap blah blah"...

And by the way, please don't try and patronise me whilst slagging my musical preferences off at the same time. So frickin' obvious. Really. Your flowery words have not eluded me. Last of all, I don't doubt that you don't at least know half of what you are going on about, but for goodness sake, stop trying to appear smarter than you really are. Its really pretentious - and I'm sure for someone like you, being pretentious is the last thing you'll want to be labelled as. Here's a tip for you (not that I think you'd ever pick it up) : There's nothing worse than an expert who thinks he's an expert.

Have any of you heard any Polish grime MCs? I used to be on some next forum a few years ago, and someone once posted up some sessions from Radio Kielce, MCing over UK Grime instrumentals.

I was shocked to find that:
(a) the MCs were actually quite good, and
(b) that grime MCing in Polish actually sounded OK.

I'd never make an MC (though I was a pretty good DJ once :) ) but I was wandering around Warszawa with my MP3 player on a few weeks ago, translating grime lyrics into Polish in my head.

Imagine lines like "Come to da ends and I'll draw for the strap" or "ur gash, I already laid it", translated into in Polish, and you'll get my drift. :D

The musical aspect of rap is not a problem. Everybody is entitled to listen to whatever they choose. Some may think it is terrible, some may think it is not. Hell, some people like music box tunes. Where the problem does lay is in the image of rap. There is an odd phenomenon. For some reason, some of the folks who listen to Rap have to start dressing funny. They sag their pants. Loose the ability to center the bill of their hats on their heads. They start wearing shirts significantly larger than their body frame and feel the need to wear an excessive amount of gold. Their speech alters too. They start talking like they grew up in the ghetto (even if they were raised in the suburbs). They start thinking that the man is trying to keep them down. They start viewing their music as an expression of that depressed life. It’s as if the image has to come with the music. So the question is…what came first? Did you think rap was ‘da-bomb’ and next moved on to dressing and acting funny? Or did you start dressing and acting funny, then felt the music came hand in hand with your new image…so you started listening to it? The cultural phenomenon that has swept the world is not a productive one. It will entertain you, no argument. You will like listening to it. Sadly, the message it brings is setting back our communities. Counter productivity sells, so it’s here to stay.

that outta win a grammy:)

you like...?

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please please please give me a break polish rap are you guys serious???!!!!!!

did you listen to it?

Seems so:) What PL hip hop have you heard?

its different thats for sure...I`ve heard alot worse

like 80% of American rap? :)

the live music i hear in poland is some of the best anywhere - but i like this type of music...

ok guys lets be serious about this for one second, POLISH RAP!!!!!. If it was that good it would be mainstream by now, or one of these guys would have tried to break the UK or America for example

Mainstream to who? They rap in Polish. Maybe if Americans understood, than it would be listened to in the US. Not everyone in Poland speaks English.

And most American mainstream is rubbish. Underground hip hop is where its at.

the live jamming at papryka on a wednesday night is fantastic and should be filmed for others to share - you never know who will turn up... this week Leszek Możdżer made a suprise performance and it went on till the late early hours

I understand that mate, i'm not naive to the fact that all polish speak English, i'm also not an imperialist, not all the world should understand or have to speak English.

So point taken and noted :), however i'm willing to bet it sounds a bit of a shambles LOL

Sorry, wasn't trying to suggest. Just stating :)


It's actually nice to listen to and flows well. MAybe you should give it a try.

the live jamming at papryka on a wednesday night is fantastic and should be filmed for others to share - you never know who will turn up... this week Leszek Możdżer made a suprise performance and it went on till the late early hours

deja vu

OK, I'm suprised no one attacked my post. I am also suprised by the Polish rapper in the You Tube video....Though I despise Rap, I can recognize what is good and what isn't. He has an interesting look and didn't sound that bad....now I feel sick for saying it.

ya, Its sounds better than that eniemen guy, even though I dont like rap
they sound pretty good

Is that more like household-name DJs like Sasha etc.? Kinda like house music?? Yea I was quite into house music a few years ago going to see Tiesto, Eddie Halliwell, Judge Jules, etc. Now not so into dance parties, but I would still prefer listening to this music than psychedelic trance.

rap is crap on tap :)

just kiddin'

liked the ryhme :)

Yoji Biomehanika :) Really nice live!

That's hard trance, no? I like to watch Lab 4 in their live shows...
myspace.com/lab4music

Seen them a few times - actually maybe twice? - in the Fridge club in Brixton... Fantastic energy in their sets. That's probably the only thing nearest to hard trance that I know anything about =D

...worse than Polish rap? ...Finnish rap probably!

Maybe some would like to comment on this situation/article:

kansascity.com/sports/columnists/jason_whitlock/story/19576 0.html

Now, mind you, this is American culture & I don't mean to reflect on Poles or Europeans...but I posted some things earlier, and maybe this article gives some context.

@ joepilsudski : yes i agree that if young generations think that acting like a gangster and being in gangs pushing drugs on the street robbing people is cool, its not a good thing, but that's more like a possible side-effect of listening to rap/hip hop. It certainly doesn't mean that everyone - or even most people - who listen to it or like the music (and hence support it by playing it on radio, buying the albums, downloading the songs, etc.) will be negatively influenced. And I think its an exaggeration to say that "as long as people like hiphop/rap, the violence in the world (particularly america and uk where this music is very big) would continue. " For one thing, I'd rather say that as long as there's poverty and inequality in the world, violence will always ensue. In fact, I will even go as far as to say that perhaps as long as there are human beings on this Earth, there will always be violence in its various forms in existence... because it almost seems as if human nature has its evil streak. Free love and hippie idealism in the 60s and 70s has come and passed... because people realised it just wasn't really workable. It was ideal, but doesn't solve the problem of many human evils... in fact it also helped propel it to another dimension - the rise of the popularity of cocaine and hence all the social problems related to it, the rise of AIDS,... etc.

If you think you are gonna do the part of a good samaritan by boycotting/dissing the music because you just think it can eradicate violence on Earth, then go ahead and do it. But what I really had a problem with, joepilsudski, was the fact that you sounded very patronising towards me and were referring to my favourite musicians as "garbage", etc... with the criticism directed towards me. I wasn't just gonna sit down there and take it and let it pass. I don't even know you personally. How would I know if you were not using it as a personal attack on me? Were you???

Anyway, case is closed as far as I'm concerned.
I'm not angry with you anymore, but don't push your luck again.