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Hmmm   
18 Sep 2007
Love / Need help: Can't get my polish girl to say "I love you" [84]

She's the most amazing girl I've met. She smells like roses, tastes like rain and races my pulse like a speeding train. I've known her for a little more than a month now. We met when I was filming an ad film in Poland. From the moment we saw each other, we drew closer every day. The first spell of meetings began with a few cordial exchanges of pleasantries and ended with an exchange of email ids. And then I left Poland to my home half-way around the world, but the mails we sent each other fuelled a fire that even oceans couldn't quench. Oceans that I crossed to met her once again, this time not to make a film - but to capture a star, to catch a dream, to chase a destiny. We wept when we made tender love, we whispered when we walked hand-in-hand, we lied when we said we could wait until we meet again. I met her parents; shook the hands of her father with a firm, reassuring grasp to tell him I would never leave his daughter's hands should he give them to me. I praised her mother for the enchanting beauty she gave as a legacy to her firstborn daughter; deep were their gratitude when they heard my sincere compliments, deeper still their pride as they saw how much I cared for their princess.

I poured out my heart to my polish lady; I emptied myself out to her; I left no love unspoken, no promise unfulfilled, no dream uncertain. As often our eyes met, I told her that I care for her. As often as we touched, I told her I will be there for her. But she still withheld her lips from uttering the words I so longed to hear - "I love you".

I walked her at 2 a.m. in the starless morning, braving the punishing cold and draping on her the sweater that would keep me warm. I numbed the pain of the bitter wind beating on my chest, considering it not a sacrifice but a joy to be able to keep her tender skin warmer than mine. And as I squeezed her hand gently I whispered once more into her ears, I love you. She smiled back at me and her lips moved to lifelessly say, "I know you do".

For four days and four nights I cherished her, praised her, embraced her and reduced myself to a romantic nomad wanting nothing more than to hear the words I so often lavished on her. But she never did say she loves me. Her body did, her kisses did, her touch did. But her lips, they were as stubborn as the grave that never gives back its dead, as unyielding as a mighty oak that proudly spurns the gentle breeze.

Now I'm back in my home. Miles away from the woman who still confesses that she misses me, still longs to hear my voice, yet never utters the words, "I love you" - not even in response to mine.

I need to know if Polish women have a hard time saying these words to the one they love, or is it just my beautiful princess. For if that's the way every Polish woman feels and behaves, then I will gladly listen to the sound of her silence and draw my strength for tomorrow in the unsaid words that she didn't utter today. But if it's only my lady who refrains from saying it, then I shall try hard to woo her and harder still to stifle my tears.
Hmmm   
18 Sep 2007
Love / Need help: Can't get my polish girl to say "I love you" [84]

Ah Rachey, if time is the reason, then I shall wait. Perhaps fools rush in where angels dare to dread.

Something like Kocham sie (ko-ham shyeh)?

We always speak in English to each other, since I don't understand Polish at all. So if she did say it in Polish, she meant for me not to hear it. It may have helped her, but it leaves me at square one.
Hmmm   
18 Sep 2007
Love / Need help: Can't get my polish girl to say "I love you" [84]

but I wouldn't describe your situation as square one.

You're right. Square one was a long time ago. May be a month ago in calendar terms, but eons ago in relationship terms. Like they say - what goes around comes around. I've been going around her telling her how I feel, someday soon she'll get to doing the same. I guess women are wired differently. Must be some self-preservation mechanism kicking in.
Hmmm   
18 Sep 2007
Love / Need help: Can't get my polish girl to say "I love you" [84]

When you tell her you Love her. Dont wait for an answer..
Say it because you do. Not because you expect her to say it back.

Well said, firestorm! But you think it's wise if I altogether stop telling her that? I don't want my words to lose their worth and value by repeating them often that they start to sound stale and ultimately evoke a "there he goes again..." response from her. I know love shouldn't be rushed, but hey, there's a lot many "I miss you so much", "I think of you all the time" sms that she's sending me. I'd like to believe she does, and I'd also like to believe that she feels that way because she's in love with me. Now perhaps there are deeper shades of love that she needs to discover in the spectrum. I may have raced her to it. And I'm just waiting for her to get there.
Hmmm   
18 Sep 2007
Love / Need help: Can't get my polish girl to say "I love you" [84]

They won't lose their worth if you mean them.

Well, I mean it every time I say it. But I worry about the law of diminishing marginal utility. i.e. the more she hears me say it, the less she's going to be swept off her feet or be flattered by it. I can mean it stronger every time, but will it come across to her in its full strength? Do note, the only way we correspond now is over international call (which is expensive and thus brief), sms and email. So she's going to read me say I love her via a rather impersonal medium compared to flesh and blood. She might pick up the excitement in my voice, but I'm afraid these words will drown among the others spoken. Now the thorn in my side is - do I keep saying it or do I make these words so rare that they become dear?
Hmmm   
18 Sep 2007
Love / Need help: Can't get my polish girl to say "I love you" [84]

You seem to have a way with words so I doubt this will happen... ;)

Thank you PD, you made me smile. I started out as a copywriter in the ad world, so words are my arsenal. Not that it makes your compliment redundant, on the contrary, it was very kind of you to slip it in as an encouragement.

Where are you..?

Firestorm, I'd like to tell you where I'm from and where I live. But I don't want to disclose my nationality or where I live - at least not now , because I've noticed that somehow or the other people throw in the 'race' card and generalisations are drawn and premature conclusions are made. I'm sure you're not one going to initiate any such remarks, but others just might find the bait too irresistible.
Hmmm   
18 Sep 2007
Love / Need help: Can't get my polish girl to say "I love you" [84]

Save it for when you speak to her.. Personally.

To all who're on this thread: I think Firestorm is Hitch. His advice is really sensible and his ideas are refreshingly original. By the way, Firestorm, you better start patenting some of your ideas, would make good retirement sense.
Hmmm   
19 Sep 2007
Love / Need help: Can't get my polish girl to say "I love you" [84]

Hi Folks. Apparently, persistence is a virtue. I finally threw all caution to the wind and asked my lady love straight away why she's reluctant to tell me she loves me when everything else clearly indicates that she does. It turns out that she was once in love with another - or so she had thought - and when she told him that she loved him, he began to distance himself from her and drifted away. Once bitten, twice shy. She had decided she's not going to let history repeat itself, so she never let her guard down. But now that I had peered in, she understood the genuinity of my feelings for her and for the first time since our relatioship began she reciprocated with the most precious words ever - I LOVE YOU. She didn't stop with that, but she told me that she's so deeply in love with me that she'll keep me like the blood in her veins and that she desires me more than she does her next heartbeat. I am feeling so wonderful at the flood of love coming my way. Polish women have nerves of steel but a heart of gold. I thank you all for your kind advices and encouragement. My Polish girl now tells me she loves me - no prompting required. We're going to spend the new year's in Bali and take our relationship to the next level soon. Firestorm - you're da main man dude! Thanks y'all!
Hmmm   
19 Sep 2007
Love / Need help: Can't get my polish girl to say "I love you" [84]

Short lustful romances can easily fizzle once the excitement is gone.

Ah, the icy voice of the harbinger of doom. Nonetheless, you are more right than you could be wrong. The trouble with short-lived romances is that they're so intense at the moment that you never doubt their longevity. However, your words of caution are to be heeded not dreaded, after all, that is the true intention of a warning. BTW, she's in Bytom. She's such a sweetheart. She just sms-ed me calling me "Kochany" for the first time and she said that even the air she breathes tastes bitter without me. Wow! I've got to try real hard to say something more romantic than that.
Hmmm   
19 Sep 2007
Love / Need help: Can't get my polish girl to say "I love you" [84]

I would never say such a thing to a woman

You are speaking about women in general or about Polish women in particular? Are Polish women stubborn and assertive.

In fact, I found my woman assertive and I thought I saw a mean streak when she told me that she had an indomitable stubborn nature. I took it in my stride. You see, she's still a film school student and I'm an ad agency creative doing ad films for a living - something that she finds fascinating and is playfully envious about. So I let her play me a bit just to make her feel like she's got an identity that isn't eclisped by mine. For e.g., if I wanted to go to a particular club, she used to say NO so emphatically that I sometimes wondered if the situation warranted such a response. Nevertheless, being older and having seen more of life than her, I often let her have the last word. It made her feel like she was important - which I promise she is to me. Of course every time she pulled one of those little tantrums, I used to pull her close, look into her eyes and tell her I love her. I did this because I didn't want her to think that I was giving into her because I was 'scared' of her, but because I love her enough to be the bigger man and let her have a way. Was I being manipulated? Is that a typical Polish girl's trait to manipulate or do strong-willed women (irrespective of race) who are dating men who are (in comparison)successful need to display this behaviour as a sign of saying "You may be a big shot, but buddy, I call the shots!"

Firestorm, man of wisdom. You're back after dinner yo? Let's pick your brains a bit. He he.
Hmmm   
20 Sep 2007
Love / Need help: Can't get my polish girl to say "I love you" [84]

You know a girl for a MONTH and expect her to tell you she loves you.

Yes it was month. And since I'm a party to the relationship I evaluated it and kind of concluded that it was 'bout time she did. In most cases, one month is way too short. But there's always an exception to a rule. Perhaps we accelerated a lot faster than most couples. But anyways, good advice from friends in the forum really helped. And guess what? Just yesterday she told me that she loves me. And all of a sudden she's also become poetic in her sms. Like they say, even a fool becomes a poet when in love. But thanks for showing up. Respect.
Hmmm   
20 Sep 2007
Love / Need help: Can't get my polish girl to say "I love you" [84]

She may feel more in love once you have the discussion about how many kids you want

I found out she hates kids - nay, detests is the word. Loves cats, though. Sometimes I wonder, can ppl actually feel that way about babies and kids. It's an instinct to like them - if not all the time, definitely not never. It's like saying I don't like water.
Hmmm   
20 Sep 2007
Language / Proposing a Polish Women in Polish Language [3]

I am coming to poland to ask her mother for marriage

Wyjdziesz za mnie? means "Will you marry me?" You can tell the girl this. But if you're gonna ask her mom for marriage, just say "Ouch!" because Polish moms have a solid left hook I heard. Just kiddin' mate. Wish you all da best!
Hmmm   
20 Sep 2007
Love / Need help: Can't get my polish girl to say "I love you" [84]

Sounds like things are going very well HMMM.

Thanks, Bubbles. Yes, things are going really well with my Polish girl. I never thought she had a romantic streak this strong. In fact, during my last day in Poland with her, she was borderline poking fun at my mushy side. But today, she's calling me her life, her heartbeat, her kochany. Some time at the start of the forum I felt silly for expecting so much to happen in a month. But right now, I feel on top of the world. I'll sure take it one day at a time. And like you said... if it was meant to be, it will be.
Hmmm   
23 Sep 2007
News / English vs. Polish hostility [323]

Ouch! I don't want to get embroiled in this conversation. But it sure looks pretty nasty from here. In the words of Austin Powers, "Ow Behave!"
Hmmm   
23 Sep 2007
News / English vs. Polish hostility [323]

Tch... tch... tch... James. Quotes are sacrosanct, mate. You never alter them. It's like an unwritten code of forum ethics or some. Anyways, you're making a point, which is that you can't stand Nigel. He... he...
Hmmm   
23 Sep 2007
News / English vs. Polish hostility [323]

James, you're good, yo! You're the eye of the tiger. Rising up to the challenge of the rivals...
Hmmm   
23 Sep 2007
News / English vs. Polish hostility [323]

so it spontaneously multiplies itself into clones

Man, puzzler. It's 3 'o freaking clock in the morning where I'm at. And your post still made me laugh. You're crack me up, man! :)
Hmmm   
23 Sep 2007
Life / I want polish passport [86]

and when can I get polish passport ??

Place marriage on microwavable plate, and turn on the microwave to high for about 3 and half minutes. Remove passport. Serve.

Caution: contents may be hot.
Hmmm   
23 Sep 2007
Life / I want polish passport [86]

Still horsing around?

Yeah, man! Some guys just walk into it, if you know what I mean :)

I want the Titanic rebuilt. You've got 30 seconds... WTF? LOL!!!
Hmmm   
23 Sep 2007
Life / I want polish passport [86]

Puzzler, I'm signing off dude. Good to know you. Catch you 2mrw phaps. Be a good dog, yo!
Hmmm   
24 Sep 2007
Life / I want polish passport [86]

Alright, here's another outrageous demand: I WANT TO BE BATMAN.
Hmmm   
24 Sep 2007
UK, Ireland / Brits and Poles - can't we all just... get along? [20]

have any Poles in Britain experienced any problems from other ethnic groups in the UK?

There was this dude, I think he was Carribean, he drove straight into me. We both have dents now. These ethnic groups I tell ya...

- Telephone Pole
Hmmm   
24 Sep 2007
News / English vs. Polish hostility [323]

I do apologise szarlotka

It takes inner strength to own up to a fault. Most people tuck their apology into a flood of words and don't make such a clean breast of it like you did. Like your attitude, yo! Respect.
Hmmm   
24 Sep 2007
News / English vs. Polish hostility [323]

There's so much love and understanding on this thread... it's a welcome change! Way to go, Nigel. You've turned the tides.