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Ironside   
19 Oct 2009
Real Estate / Foreigners: Please don't buy Polish Land! [823]

(thinks adopting Iron will prevent him from being too critical towards M-G, certainly an option to consider)

thats maybe a wise idea:)

Look at his picture, very shifty looking.

look yourself up in the mirror ....too much "supplements" for your muscles build :p
Its actually affects your brain. :D
Ironside   
19 Oct 2009
Real Estate / Foreigners: Please don't buy Polish Land! [823]

Polish person says:

thats is an opinion , doesn't matter what kind - its mark of the freedom.

Other, non-Polish person makes harmless joke about Poles.

its a matter of opinion whatever jock is harmless or not ....anyway its not tactful, no tactful at all ......

Polish person reacts: you discriminate! I go to court, you're a racist!

doubt it ! is not typical reaction of Polish person, the same with

it's ok if you beat them up because they are sick.

its not typical reaction of Polish person.

from the Western world owe me and all the Polish to give us jobs, houses and help us develop our poor Central European country.

that EU, thats what pro-EU propaganda was about and fact that we didn't received Marshall help after the war as all so high strut western country's did, including Germany(at last part of it).

Those facts my be some explanation for you as what my prompted some more hot blooded opinions of some of the my countrymen.

(neutral observation)

rather neuronal fantasy :)

Let's split it up in 3 equal parts again.

that is pretty offensive

I-S (of opinion that G-M should have steady supply of coffee)
Ironside   
16 Oct 2009
History / Did Ukraine really "steal" Polish land? [302]

I am not talking about you. You know that.

yes I know that:)

Once Ukraine will enter the EU,

if ever enters ,....:p

so don't feel so offended, ok?

I don't feel offended but not sure why you find something wrong in just cause, even if not entirely possible in foreseeable future to achieve?!

No, it's not my cat, unfortunately. Soon, I will have an avatar of my master on here.

I like cats and dogs !
I-S ( likes MareGaea too, but is confused by his stand on the Lwów issue)
Ironside   
16 Oct 2009
History / Did Ukraine really "steal" Polish land? [302]

This ridiculous topic is full of Nazis!

It make me laugh ...... wanna talk about Nazi lets talk about Ukraine ...

Apart from Ironsides posts all arguments here are historically grounded,

hey I feel excluded ....its no fair !
But seriously what are you blabbing about .......
I post my conclusion after thoughtful research and analysis of historical facts.
That you come to a different conclusion it has nothing to do with history or facts!

I wouldn't call them "Nazis", slo, although some of the participants tend to lean in that direction.

Is it me you talking about?

ust remember one thing: if you base your views on historical facts, it doesn't make those views less disgusting.

hey what is disgusting about my view ???

Lwów never will be Polish?
You can tall ?
Could you give me winning numbers for next lottery ?

coffee and aspirin)

good idea
by the way is that your cat?
Ironside   
15 Oct 2009
History / Did Ukraine really "steal" Polish land? [302]

But anyway. It's the past. Learn from the past, enjoy today and look forward to a bright future. Too many ppl live in the past.

that what I'm doing - don't get me wrong from my posts!
But it doesn't mean that Lwów shouldn't belong to Poland:p

When you speak of atrocities you mean expulsion of population ?

lets make it clear ...

I said atrocities I meant mass murders and such.

still a bit grump

get some coffee and chocolate cake

I- S ( going to get more coffee )
Ironside   
15 Oct 2009
History / Did Ukraine really "steal" Polish land? [302]

They treated the Germans a bit like the Poles were treated by the Soviets in Lwow.

you mean kick them out ? (don't understand Poznan in the equation)
well, at last they could go freely unlike Poles in Lwów - in most cases!
Ah and Germans on the territories incorporated into Germany usually families kicked out of they homes had between 1 - 2 hours to pack.
Considering that Germans were aggressors, and all they had done .......that ethnic cleansing were done according to plans made by the British, American and Russian - I fail to see your point!

From the moral point of view no atrocities are justified!
But they were committed by everyone during the war!

When you speak of atrocities you mean expulsion of population ?
Well mate its first time I can say that your way of thinking is "western" - when I said atrocities I meant mass murders and such.

I-S ( you really don't know what atrocities mean except of curse "holocaust")
Ironside   
15 Oct 2009
History / Did Ukraine really "steal" Polish land? [302]

ious activities

Do atrocities committed by the other side justify atrocities committed by oneself?

In what way justify ?
Ironside   
15 Oct 2009
History / Did Ukraine really "steal" Polish land? [302]

There's a pretty big connection between Lwów and Wrocław, we and Ukrainians are in the exact same position as Germans and us,

Lwów after the war was almost intact - Wrocław was in ruins
Poland belonged to the camp of the winners of WWII - German lost and during the war were practicing atrocious activities
Ukrainian minority(or some part of it) started ethnic cleansing as award they were granted lands of their victims.
Soviet Union won the war but it was as well responsible for start of the war - Hitlers ally until 1941.
The only similarity I see is that things were decided by Stalin in both cases.
Ironside   
15 Oct 2009
History / Did Ukraine really "steal" Polish land? [302]

So cut the crap of "Germans stole polish lands". Thank you!

Again about what lands exactly are we talking?

h and Ironside, better forget your fantasy brain games...you will get Lwow back when Germany get's Breslau and Danzig back.

You promise ?:p

If thats only fantasy games what do you care?....... and why you play along?

Danzig is not German town or to say it more clearly it should belong to Poland.
As for Breslau you lost all rights during last war .........as I don't claim Breslu to be unquestionably Polish.
I fail to see connection between those two issues.
Ironside   
15 Oct 2009
History / Did Ukraine really "steal" Polish land? [302]

But didn't you guys annex some territory from Germany as well?

whats of it?

you have to ask

If I'll need help I'll ask you! Thank you :)
Ironside   
14 Oct 2009
History / Did Ukraine really "steal" Polish land? [302]

it was just return to rightful owners

you are an ignorant cocksucker and to hell with you

Chmielnicki

he was polish nobility you moron .....

And when do you get into your thick skull that Lwów and area belonged to Poland since 1267.
And Ukraine from 1569, so we are talking about different realities here lady's!

So it's clear that Poles were a minority in the territoria annexed by the Soviets.

lets pick country with minorities and focus on the area where such minority is majority - this is a really strenuous thinking to justify robbery. (just commenting, as for my Dutch is not progressing :( )
Ironside   
14 Oct 2009
History / Did Ukraine really "steal" Polish land? [302]

What is the problem here?.

Your ignorance!

We are talking about Lwów and area, not about Ukraine from XVI and XVII when most of the landlords were Ruthenian or of Ruthenia origin and regardless they involvment with Jewish middle men it has nothing to do with just and honorable quest to rescue Lwów.
Ironside   
14 Oct 2009
History / Did Ukraine really "steal" Polish land? [302]

Poles were not leading class, szliachta and magnaty did, and Ukrainians were among the elite.

Poles were leading class in the terms of culture, and in Lwów people with education automatically assumed Polish identity till about 1850s.

Ukraine is young nation and even youngest state (1990).
Even if one agree that there is connection between XVII/XVIII century and present day country, it doesn't change a fact that Ukrainian state doesn't existed before XX century.

What more its present borders are due to being borders of Soviet Union, there not ant reason at all to treat them as "natural " borders of Ukraine.

Further more Lwów should belong to Poland.
Its obvious.

Polish government representing civilized people in Poland.

Polish government represent idiots ....if anybody ...
Ironside   
12 Oct 2009
History / Did Ukraine really "steal" Polish land? [302]

i'm not saying that we should get Lwów back,

If you would had paid some attension to what I'm saying - I think that
Lwów should simply belong to Poland!


Never mind the means lets focus on results :P
Ironside   
12 Oct 2009
History / Did Ukraine really "steal" Polish land? [302]

I'm talking in the name of Polish goverment and the majority of Poles,

I'm talking in my name only and never claimed otherwise. On the other hand you are clown, no sorry, maybe you are officially elected ombudsmen for Polish government but if not you are ( I think is French word to best describe you) buffoon :P

in the end Lwów will get back to Poland,

thats the spirit !

Yes, they stole. Lwów is our, we want the town back but without ukrainians.

voice of people has spoken - and I like it! as they say vox populi vox dei ...

frankly you should keep your little UPA nazis quiet because unlike Poland-Germany Ukraine is seen as redundant by EU and Russia so if you start saber rattling and we kick your ass no one will as much as lift a finger to help you.

Oh please you are embarrassing me ........do you care for a drink of hemlock, Socrates ?
:p
Ironside   
12 Oct 2009
History / Did Ukraine really "steal" Polish land? [302]

no we dont want to take it from you now or ever, we do not hold a grudge against you so stop inventing your own fascist little version of history.

talk in your own name only
Ironside   
11 Oct 2009
News / Why does Poland love the US? [144]

They can slip in under the radar :)

i protest ,,.... perfidious Albion
mock this you .....sheep!
Ironside   
11 Oct 2009
News / Why does Poland love the US? [144]

Because it the way they would like Poland to be....or through a genetic memory they recall lost powerful country as Poland used to be .....freedom and small government .... well **** it! And bustards who took over in USA..
Ironside   
11 Oct 2009
History / Did Ukraine really "steal" Polish land? [302]

Wow, so simple. :):)

banana?
its your lucky day ...... take it and go gallop on your fours as good pawians do ......
watch out for baobabs on the savanna plateau ....you ....baboon :P

BY the way, I think that Lwów should simply belong to Poland!

I think that Lwów should simply belong to Poland!

Wow you are coming to your senses ....happy days for the pawians family ..
Ironside   
11 Oct 2009
History / Did Ukraine really "steal" Polish land? [302]

if you are correct, rather sadly:p
But I'm confident that you are not right and given right cirrcumstances most people soundly will agree with me.

BY the way, I think that Lwów should simply belong to Poland!
Ironside   
10 Oct 2009
History / Did Ukraine really "steal" Polish land? [302]

Ukrainian pure

Nathans typical fascistic bull!

today its Ukrainian Lviv.

Correct !

and let it be.

NO no no ******* way buster!#
give away whats yours, Lwów doesn't belong to you....so don't give it away!

Lwów should simply belong to Poland!
Ironside   
7 Oct 2009
History / What would Europe look like with Polish-Lithuanian-Ukrainian Commonwealth today [209]

Thats your opinion.
Be grateful, whatever, phew......people with your mindset have bought F-16

Poland has a huge opportunity and has massive latent energy.

Sure, problem is there was Soviet Union and now EU, there no chance for independent development,

I believe that Poland is one of the most powerful nations in Europe. But, for now, it is latent power.

So do I!
Ironside   
7 Oct 2009
History / What would Europe look like with Polish-Lithuanian-Ukrainian Commonwealth today [209]

Because

I asked Grunwald because in 1772 it was one state and it didn't have much to do with language .......so his argument sucks ....put it together with Warsaw Duchy and its territory, its sucks much more, as at this time it was only 12 years after partitions or if you exclusively treat year 1772 23 years after first partition.

What is "strange" today, was quite obvious then ........if someone doesn't understand it should learn.

becouse doesn't understand first thing about past!