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Babinich   
14 Sep 2009
News / Death Sentence in Poland, when was it abolished? Last executed? [26]

More effective would be indeed lifelong imprisonment. May cost society something, but at least you get the benefit that the perpetrator gets to be confronted with himself and the deed he has done for the rest of his life.

How do you know the offender embraces contrition?
Babinich   
11 Sep 2009
News / Poland Remembers start of WW2 [200]

If the French had fighted like the Wehrmacht in Russia, inflicting 3times the casualties inspite of being hugely outnumbered in men and material (what the french weren't!) the war would had found a quick end then already....

What are you talking about? Comparing the eastern and western fronts are apples and oranges.

Bagration caught the Germans unprepared and confused. Bagration left the east wide open to the Soviets.

You can quote all the numbers you want. The reality of the matter was that Bagration left no doubt that the Soviet could do whatever it wanted as it marched west into Prussia and Germany.

Everybody fighted and won/lost but did fight well...but the French that is.

Quit promoting the myth that the French just left their weapons and ran to London/Vichy. There are many examples where the French inflicted tremendous causalities on the overconfident Germans.

To Lose A Battle: France 1940 - Sir Alistair Horne
Babinich   
5 Sep 2009
News / Poland Remembers start of WW2 [200]

There is nothing humiliating about that defeat...the Germans made them pay! Every german stubblehopper, tanker, pilot inflicted much more damage to the enemy than the other way around.
What a "walk over" for the Soviets, yeah right...

Shkop,

The annihilation of AGC was total. The repercussions of this defeat were immeasurable. From this point forward the corrupt Nazi hierarchy went into meltdown. Martin Bormann's orders to the SS to arrest army officer because of his feeling that the General Staff aligned itself with the Moscow Free Germany Committee. Jodl proposed the German General Staff be abolished.

Hitler, now believing that a shock blow to one of the allied fronts would save Germany, wasted men and material in the Ardennes in what was called the Battle of the Bulge.

The Bulge, from the German perspective, was a waste of men and material.

The Nazi leadership disintegrated. Political infighting increased, and Hitler's optimism after Bagration (he thought it was a net positive because the front was shortened) was nothing more that wild-eyed fantasy.

Ironic, German generals had argued for shortening the front in the spring of 1944. For their arguments Manstein, Hoth, and Kleist were dismissed.

This was a total collapse; to argue any other point is foolish.
Babinich   
5 Sep 2009
News / Poland Remembers start of WW2 [200]

When a outnumbered attacking force runs over a bigger army and their whole country in 6 weeks you can call that either "middle finger" or the most humiliating defeat of an army ever!

Shkop,

Bagration - the death of Army Group Center was a greater defeat.

The Germans lost 450K men and AGC's strength fell from 880K to 445K. Another 100K fell in secondary battles (AGS Ukraine). The Soviets lost 178.5K killed and 587K wounded. The Soviets lost 2957 tanks & self propelled guns & 2447 guns and mortars.

Despite these losses the Soviets increased their troop levels from 6,394,500 in March 1944 to 6,500,00 in late fall of 1944. The Germans and it allies lost troops: from 2,460,000 in June of 1944 to 2,030,000 by Nov 1944.

Soviet material for tanks and self propelled went from 7753 on June 1 to 8,300 by Jan 1945. German gains for the same equipment went from 2608 on June 1944 to 3700 by Nov 1944. Over the same time frame Soviet artillery went from 100K to 114K; German artillery decreased from 7080 in June 1944 to 5700 in Nov 1944.
Babinich   
4 Sep 2009
News / Poland Remembers start of WW2 [200]

In the West, in 1939/40 they used little more than their middle finger and the British ran very fast back home across the channel.

I disagree...

* German armored strength May 10 1940: 2439 battle tanks, of which 349 Panzer III and 278 Panzer IV.
* Allied armored strength May 10 1940: 4204 battle tanks including 300 Somua and 274 Char B.
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* Allied Airforce in continental Europe: 4,469 of which at the front: 1,453
* German Luftwaffe: 3,578 of which at the front 2,589 (w/material advantage)
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* Germany deployed about three million men for the battle.
* Because of a low birthrate, which had even further declined during the First World War, France had a severe manpower shortage relative to its total population, which furthermore was barely half that of Germany. To compensate, France had mobilised about a third of the male population between the ages of 20 and 45, bringing the strength of its armed forces to over six million men, more than the entire German Wehrmacht of 5.4 million. Only 2.2 million of these served in army units in the north, though the total there was brought to over 3.3 million by the British, Belgian and Dutch forces.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_France

To Lose a Battle: France 1940 - Sir Alistair Horne
Babinich   
3 Sep 2009
News / Poland Remembers start of WW2 [200]

Bagration: just looking at the number makes you the one lacking perspective.

historynet.com/operation-bagration-soviet-offensive-of-1944.htm

"By early August, the German Fourth Army and almost all of the Ninth and Third Panzer armies were gone. Thirty German divisions disappeared, and nearly 30 more were crippled. The Red Army was within striking distance of the Vistula and had reached the outskirts of Warsaw. By mid-August, Red Army soldiers were entrenched on Prussian soil, only 350 miles from Berlin, and Romania, with its vital oil fields, was poised to desert the Axis cause. Until January, however, the exhausted Soviet giant would remain relatively quiet, refitting and re-equipping for the final push from the Vistula to Berlin."

"The irreplaceable German losses in Belorussia, in conjunction with the Normandy landings and the July 20 attempt on Hitler's life, spread demoralization throughout the upper ranks of the Wehrmacht's command structure, and made certain that the Red Army would ever after move west. "
Babinich   
3 Sep 2009
News / Poland Remembers start of WW2 [200]

The France campaign is called the biggest and most humiliating defeat ever (in world history).

Oh boy....board idiot Babi has spoken

What about Bagration where Army Group Center was wiped out?

In a larger sense how ironic that you of all people would talk about other nation's humiliating defeats.
Babinich   
3 Sep 2009
News / Poland Remembers start of WW2 [200]

The France campaign is called the biggest and most humiliating defeat ever (in world history).

Try Bagration; Army Group Center was wiped out.

After the conference in Tehran, your heard less and less about Poland from both FDR and Churchill

From the program American Experience on FDR:

* FDR spent many sleepless night wondering if aiding the Brits was the right thing to do.
* After Pearl Harbor FDR, head in hands, worried bout how he'd be remembered as President in the face of the Pearl Harbor attack.
* Belittled his friend and ally (Churchill) to gain favor with Stalin. Stalin made a fool of FDR all at the expense of Eastern Europe.
Babinich   
2 Sep 2009
News / Poland Remembers start of WW2 [200]

that is also a lesson.....

Hey BB...

Did you learn any lessons from 20th Century history?
Babinich   
14 Aug 2009
USA, Canada / Why Americans think that nobody likes them? [185]

The biggest problem about Americans is that they think using stereotypes

Just are you're doing right now?

in response to pgtx:

lol... no, I was comparing stupid decisions. Like whoever decided to hire you in Texas.

Uh-oh... :')
Babinich   
13 Aug 2009
USA, Canada / Why Americans think that nobody likes them? [185]

2. When you grow up in America you are taught that America is #1 and anyone that doesn't believe that must be against America.

What a load of horse manure... The teachers of today start railing against the United Staes of America from the Founding fathers forward.

3. The mentality is generally one side of the other. dem or repub, either you are with me or you are against me. The middle ground doesn't exist much in the general mentality of the public and therefore if someone is critical of America than it is assumed they are against it or doesn't like it.

Wrong...

online.wsj.com/article/SB124459129882600069.html
Babinich   
11 Aug 2009
History / Who lost WWII (besides Poland)? [42]

They were closer to the Nazis than the Americans.

The war was over; the western allies were not going to trade lives for real estate.

As for the cold War; Poland was the first victim in Tehran. There was to be a shift of the Polish border to the Oder and Neisse rivers and the Curzon line

The defeated nations would be divided into occupation zones under American, British, and Soviet control.

It was accepted that the Soviets were to oversee the establishment of government in each liberated Eastern European country.

There's your start...
Babinich   
11 Aug 2009
History / Who lost WWII (besides Poland)? [42]

IMHO, the western allies were not strong enough militarily to be faster than the Soviets in their advance.

It wasn't a matter of speed; it was a matter of common sense.

The number of casualties the western allies would have experienced taking Berlin would have been egregious.
Babinich   
11 Aug 2009
History / Who lost WWII (besides Poland)? [42]

That Stalin had other plans with the countries his troops occupied - well, some of his allies knew that beforehand, I guess.

Most likely not because the cold war didn't start until all the great brains started fleeing the east moving to the west.

The Allies knew Stalin, once settled in countries would not leave. The Cold War started on Nov. 28, 1943. The event signaling the start? The Tehran Conference.
Babinich   
6 Aug 2009
History / "GANGING UP" ON POLAND? [99]

Poland promised not to sign a separate peace treaty with the USSR: after Ukrainians had fought for Poland (and after the miracle on the Wisla) Poland signed a separate peace treaty with the USSR.

Like the Rada did to the Poles in 1918 by signing Brest-Litovsk?
Babinich   
3 Aug 2009
History / Russia: Poland responsible for WW II [300]

Only insane lunatic may wage a war against a nation. Nevertheless if such war would appear, it certainly have little to do with dictator himself.

Ever heard of Adolf Hitler? :')

It was always written by the winners, so it is beneficial, before making your own judgment to try to see the viewpoints from both sides in the conflict and get as much information from as many diverse sources as possible.

You're spot on; I cannot agree with you more.
Babinich   
2 Aug 2009
History / Russia: Poland responsible for WW II [300]

While you cannot make lawsuits against nation.

No, but one can wage war against a nation to force the removal of a dictator.
Babinich   
2 Aug 2009
History / Russia: Poland responsible for WW II [300]

But that isn't the point...maybe you should really read some books? :)

I've read many books; but thanks for the advice.
Babinich   
2 Aug 2009
History / Russia: Poland responsible for WW II [300]

Buchanan's book? No; I did not.

Buchanan is not a historian.

I've read enough about:
* The Treaty of Versailles
* Rise of Fascism & the Nazi Party (Shirer)
* The expansion on Nazi power at the expense of human rights
* German Re-militarization
* Measuring the allies state of mind through the reoccupation of the Rhineland

I know without a doubt that the blame for WWII falls on the shoulders of the German people.

BB: accept your nations history, accept your nations guilt.
Babinich   
2 Aug 2009
History / Russia: Poland responsible for WW II [300]

It seems a mainstream history revision is underway and Russia's viewpoint is not seen as loony as thought to be.
Something not expectable to read 10 or 20 years back...

WWII rests squarely on the shoulders of the nation of Germany.
Babinich   
30 Jul 2009
News / New York Post : "Polish" Death Camps and more [278]

I think you exchange your God with a human conscience.

Where was the collective German conscience in the 1930's and 1940's?

The secular regard morality not as absolute, but as relative.

So instead of moral absolutes, the secularist holds legal absolutes. "Legal" for the secularist is what "moral" is for the Right.

The religious have a belief in God-based moral law, and the secularist believes in man-made law exists as moral law.

This is the exact reason why the secularist is infatuated with creating law. It gives them the power to mold society just as Judeo-Christian values did in the past. Secularist ideals (climate change, universal health care, unchecked welfare programs) function as a religion.

Since it lacks the self-control mechanism that is a major part of religion, the secularist passes more and more laws to control people.

There is the direct link between the decline in Judeo-Christian religion and the increase in governmental laws controlling human behavior.
Babinich   
30 Jul 2009
News / New York Post : "Polish" Death Camps and more [278]

Or do you think you would have converted to Catholicism if you were brought up in Canada 3000 years ago?.

There was no Catholicism much less a Canada 3000 years ago.

The mass murder in the last centuries in the name of the christian god are uncomparable with anything the Pagans could ever do.

Stalin's purges, Hitler's ascendancy, WWII, more Stalin, Mao's purges, Korea, more Mao, Vietnam & Khmer Rouge (Pol Pot).

Some much ignorance; so little time...