Polish resettlement camps in Britain 1945

Bubba,

I don't live in the past and I am more focused on the future than most. I do, however, understand that certain things need to be addressed in order to bring clarity to the future. Family members of mine were killed fighting with the RAF and others were killed fighting against communists after the world. They believed in democracy and freedom and were willing to died for it.

If that makes me a twat on this forum, I'll accept my role gracefully!

Ha! Pot/Kettle......

johan, i dont see this the way that you do - i dont agree with what you are saying and i dont think you are going to say anything that will make me change my mind - this is why i dont want to get drawn into discussion

saying that, in order to bring clarity to the present perhaps you could explain exactly what 'things' need to be addressed and exactly what you hope to achieve by it

er,lets not,this thread was about Polish resettlement in the UK after WW2,something you have demonstrated absolutly zero knowladge of so.........

Make it up as you go along. It's the future. You can do that.
Unlike history, which more than enough people try to mould to suit their own view of the world.

If you see your glass as half full, you'll be looking forward to your next drink,
rather than moaning about someone who spilt one a long time ago.

This was a topic for you istahtu so as you don't feel left out of the conversation! The other topics seem a little difficult for you and you always end up insulting people.


I don't understand this expression in English!

sorry to but in but i just arrived. However does anyone know of Czecy in WWII before Poland,. I dont I just twiddle my thumbs.

see Układ monachijski

you do realise how stupid you sound dont you? seeing as I am probably the one putting in the most input in this thread (on topic,unlike you)to counter your odd mix of communist propaganda and bleating self-pity.......if you are insulted by the truth there is clearly no hope for you,i suggest you move to mother Russia where your type of dogmatic interpretation of history may still hold water......


It is a phrase meaning you have double standards....you accuse people of not understanding history yet clearly you have no understanding of it yourself.

The kettle(black iron) calls the pot(black iron) er, black.

I think your wasting your breath with the above mate?.....I mean why does anyone in Poland....England or anywhere else in Europe...OR even the world really need to know the outcome of a domestic quarrel between to English Kings who lived in the early middle ages????......Your to busy trying to prove to everyone how educated Poles are....and then you end up making a complete fool of yourselves!!

I think that Poland is a throw of conscience (not sure about translation "wyrzut sumienia") for Britain and US, and on the other hand, we have some complex about how we were exploited by the west. That explains Polish attitude to dig into the past, and British/American willing to forget about history.

I think now Poland is making again a sensless favour for USA and UK by it's contribution in Iraq and Afganistan. I agree, that when it's not in line with British/US buisiness, they will say to us f*ck you, like they did in 1939 and 1945. So, instead of licking others a***, we should leave Iraq as soon as possible and start to care about our own buisiness.

In the past Poland tried to establish it's relations with UK/USA by GRATEFULNESS. "If we help them, they will help us when we'' need it". GRATEFULNESS is something people can feel one to another, but nations do not know such a filling!! So now we do same error and it's ridiculous!

Remember, "Britain has no constant frends, it has constant buisiness".

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As fo examples shown above, sadly for British ignorants, Turing wouldn't crack new version of Enigma, if he didn't know results of Rejewski, Rozycki and Zygalski work. Enigma is a best example of British attitude toward Poles, something we call in Polish "a white Negro". We should stop to make anything for free, because they will not even say "thanks", but moreover, will kick our asses. Life is brutal.

as everybody and yesterday debate shows that there are politicians in Poland who think the same

so, despite living in the past, poland seems unable to learn lessons from history

oh well

I didn't watch. Who do you mean?

You are right, sadly. But, when we look better who put Polish boys in Iraq, we find post communist traitors like A.K...

Besides if the price for voicing my own opinion is stupidity in your eyes isthatu. I'll gladly pay it!

little girl or grumpy middle aged woman( i still cant decide which) have you anything to say regarding Polish resettlement in the UK after WW2 or not? If not take your xenophobic distaste of the hand that fed you off somewhere else.

What's more your reactions are pretty much par for the course! We need to be taught about history by the ever superior, in intellect, Americans or Brits. It doesn't really matter what subject: Economics, Religion, International Relations, Human Rights or anything else for that matter. There is always a judgement of Polish and other cultures/countries, hidden behind a false openess to debate. A false openess that has no real intention or willingness for cultural interaction based on equality. Even if we make the effort to debate in your language, because you rarely have the intellectual capabilities of mastering ours


I am actually a grumpy old woman!

well you should know better then. I was right though,you do come across as very as brainwashed by communism and all its doctrines. You really are the definition of what most people cant stand, Arrogent and self pitying in the same breath.


or we think,what is the point when we speak the language you all need to work anywhere in the world. There really isnt that much call for Polish language skills outside of Poland. And if you are an "old woman" you have obviously had many many years to learn the language of oppertuinity whre as I have only been teaching myself your varient of western slavonic for the past 2 years.

To all those Brits saying "you was taught history by communists": do you think, that communists could taught people they were sold to bloody Stalin? For them he was a hero and a father of nations, so it was not like that! People who say, we were sold out to ussr, say something deeply against communist propaganda!!

I have no objection to discussing and exchanging views. I even have no objection to you insulting me from time to time. I do, however, take the liberty to inform you that I have spent the whole of my life fighting communism and would be most grateful if you could at least refrain from the above comments.


I am absolutely delighted to see an intellectual mind facing the challenges of learning a Slavic language. I am sorry that we can't find a consensus of opinion concerning Poland's place in history. I do, however, respect the fact that you are well read and have an opinion to voice and would be grateful if you could do the same.

Johan, Im pretty sure in a face too face discusion we could both find many things to agree on and I apologise for lowering my standards with petty snipes. It would be nice to think you are capable of the same,your constant insinuations that all British people are ignorent ,uneducated and liars/missled is as insulting to us as calling you communist so lets leave it at that.

all the best.


Im not sure we would disagree on Polands place in history,I think what we may disagree on is the level of blame to be attached to the British people that you would seem to espouse. After all it wasnt the "people" making deals at Yalta et al,it was the politicions. The people of Britain welcomed the Poles with open arms and hearts both in 1940 and again in 1945 after it was clear that many would face prison or execution if they returned to what was then Soviet occupied Poland run by the Polish communists of the so called lublin govt'. In my small town a reletivly high percentage of the population are of Polish origin,Im not myself but a tenth of those I went to school with had names ending in 'ski etc so we are hardly the nation of Pole haters you would seem to think we are.

I accept your apology and offer my own apology in return. I fully except what you have written concerning the support for Poles in Britain after WW2. I can only hope that are exchange of opinions will be more fruitful in the future.

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WW2 Polish settlement in the North study

Hello,
I am looking for any memoirs related to the Polish settlement in the north of England (Leeds, Manchester, Liverpool,Newcastle, York, Bradford etc). I am particularly interested in the inner (Polish) community memories, personal documents, diaries etc. It is for an academic history research project on memory and identity of the displaced communities in the UK. Amongst many other goals, it aims to analyse political perspectives of the wartime Polish migrants and their attitudes towards other migrant communities.

Lucia