Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland?

Puzzler 9 | 1,088

14 Dec 2007 / #151

the millions of expelled Germans

- It's good the Nazi scum was kicked out. At least one thing the Russkies did right in Poland and Czechia.
:)

Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,830

14 Dec 2007 / #152

you know what is opinon about Germans from silesia in Poland ?

I hope bad...really bad! *grrrrr*

But then Klose and Podolski are from Silesia too...:)
(Think about that when they shoot Germany to the titel)

Eurola 4 | 1,902

14 Dec 2007 / #153

LOL. BBoy is baaack...with all his BS stories :)
Why don't you take care and "fix" your "eastern Germany brothers".... I hear, people from "west' germany wil not even marry anybody from former" east" germany... hehehe

Lukasz 49 | 1,746

14 Dec 2007 / #154

...The next chapter in the city's colourful history began in 1741 when King Frederick the Great II seized Lower Silesia and brought it under Prussian rule. It was he who officially gave the city its German name of Breslau (or Prezzla), although it had been used for many centuries before by the large ethnic German population. Wroclaw spent the next two hundred years in German hands and by the end of the 19th century it was the third largest Prussian city behind Berlin and Hamburg, and began to be heavily industrialised. ..."My grandparents did marry here...as Germans!

yes yes but hisotry of silesia havent started in XVIII century ... :)

But then Klose and Podolski are from Silesia too...:)

good examples of true Germans

Puzzler 9 | 1,088

14 Dec 2007 / #155

King Frederick the Great II

- A degenerate - liar, pervert, psychopath. A nice example to follow. Actually, Hitler felt to have been his political-'spiritual' inheritor. <SPIT>
:)

Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,830

14 Dec 2007 / #156

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
...The next chapter in the city's colourful history began in 1741 when King Frederick the Great II seized Lower Silesia and brought it under Prussian rule. It was he who officially gave the city its German name of Breslau (or Prezzla), although it had been used for many centuries before by the large ethnic German population. Wroclaw spent the next two hundred years in German hands and by the end of the 19th century it was the third largest Prussian city behind Berlin and Hamburg, and began to be heavily industrialised. ..."My grandparents did marry here...as Germans!

yes yes but hisotry of silesia havent started in XVIII century ... :)

Okay...again:

"....although it had been used for many centuries before by the large ethnic German population...."

- A degenerate - liar, pervert, psychopath. A nice example to follow. Actually, Hitler felt to have been his political-'spiritual' inheritor. <SPIT>

Yeah...well..."THE GREAT" must be earned somehow....:)
(Even if it's only the second "The Great"....the second greatest so to speak)

Lukasz 49 | 1,746

14 Dec 2007 / #157

"....although it had been used for many centuries before by the large ethnic German population...."

so if you are true German ... it was right you were expeled because it was slavic ground before "large ethnic German population" apeared in XVIII century.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silesian_Uprisings

The Silesian Uprisings (German: Aufstände in Oberschlesien; Polish: Powstania śląskie) were a series of three armed uprisings of the Poles of Upper Silesia, from 1919-1921, against Weimar rule; the resistance hoped to break away from Germany in order to join the Second Polish Republic, which had been established in the wake of World War I. In the latter-day history of Poland after World War II, the insurrections were celebrated as centrepieces of national pride.

it is Polish land as well.

as to me your ansestors were colaborators or occupators

OP celinski 31 | 1,258

14 Dec 2007 / #158

quote=shopgirl] Excuse me for asking, but doesn't this museum recognize displacement of other peoples in Europe as well, or is that just besides the point? [/quote]

Your quote is the headline I took from the artical. Below is the first three para.

The aim of the organisers of the exhibition at the Kronprinzenpalais on Berlin's Unter Den Linden Avenue is ambitious - to explore the plight of millions of people who were forced to flee their homes in Europe during the 20th Century.

There are dozens of examples of civilians who were expelled in Europe, ranging from the mass killing of Armenians from 1915-16, the Holocaust, to refugees in Cyprus and the former Yugoslavia.

There are many objects on display, including suitcases, photo albums and other personal belongings which the refugees took with them into exile.

But, controversially, the exhibition also focuses on the suffering of Germans who were expelled from Poland and Eastern Europe after World War ll.

Carol

Puzzler 9 | 1,088

14 Dec 2007 / #159

but there was one [German - P.] family who was helping Poles during WWII

- Those were extremely rare cases. So rare, in fact, that, well, I'm wondering if you haven't made it up, Lukasz? The vast majority of them - practically 100 % - enjoyed their piggish 'good fortune' under Hitler, ratted on the occupied Poles, and backed the Nazi regime fanatically. Fuk them and the memory of them.

slick77 - | 127

14 Dec 2007 / #160

Here it is...

For centuries Silesia was prussian!

Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,830

14 Dec 2007 / #161

so if you are true German ... it was right you were expeled because it was slavic ground before "large ethnic German population" apeared in XVIII century

Hmmm...."slavic ground"?
Reminds about "Blut and Boden" speak of the Nazis...
And you approve of ethnic cleansings!
And you call ME a Nazi! LOL

And what is so hard to understand in:

"....although it had been used for many centuries before by the large ethnic German population....

Means: Many centuries before the XVII...come on...can't be that hard!

Puzzler 9 | 1,088

14 Dec 2007 / #162

Yeah...well..."THE GREAT" must be earned som

- 'Great' to you and your friends. To us he's the dirtiest murderous swine and shall remain such.

Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,830

14 Dec 2007 / #163

Here it is...

These Pickelhauben are great, aren't they??? Such pretty things.
I had one of these once at my avatar here in the forum...boy some of you didn't like it...

:)

That was after I used an Iron Cross...but in the end we agreed on my real life portrait...

To us he's the dirtiest murderous swine and shall remain such.

Tja...what can I say...

z_darius 14 | 3,965

14 Dec 2007 / #164

You know Poland didn't even exist for awhile...swarming with Germans...could very well be...

Lands all the way to Berlin were swarming with Slavs. Berlin itself isn't even a German name. Could it be that you are a closet Slav?

Where do you think the millions of people from you did expell came from???

Wrong address buddy. Write the complaints to comrade Stalin, Sir Winston Churchill and Mr Prez if the US of A. You may also file a complaint with the Nazi government for signing the agreement, and then a few subsequent German leaders for keeping it alive.

The next chapter in the city's colourful history began in 1741 when King Frederick the Great II seized Lower Silesia and brought it under Prussian rule. It was he who officially gave the city its German name of Breslau

An even more colorful times for Wroclaw began a couple of decades ago. Other areas regained form Germans experienced similar revival and return home. If you want a piece of those, you have to pay.

My grandparents did marry here...as Germans!

Oh well. People have to marry somewhere, don't they. Yours married in Poland.
Gotcha :)

Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,830

14 Dec 2007 / #165

The Silesian Uprisings (German: Aufstände in Oberschlesien; Polish: Powstania śląskie) were a series of three armed uprisings of the Poles of Upper Silesia, from 1919–1921, against Weimar rule; the resistance hoped to break away from Germany in order to join the Second Polish Republic, which had been established in the wake of World War I. In the latter-day history of Poland after World War II, the insurrections were celebrated as centrepieces of national pride.

Yeah well...you now have it...Deutsch rein.

6 Mill dead Poles later....good deal won't you agree?

Could it be that you are a closet Slav?

What is it with you guys putting me as as slav.

You can't make all Germans to slavs...there MUST be also some Germans you know????

:)

Wrong address buddy. Write the complaints to

Yeah sure...it was ALWAYS someone else...never the Poles...you were just
always the poor victims...*yawns*....

Eurola 4 | 1,902

14 Dec 2007 / #166

So, Bratwurst Boy..are you going to date or marry a girl from "western" Germany or she would not want you? Just curious, what you think about the East and West Germany today. Is it true that you guys don't mix? I read an article in some magazine some time ago and it got me courious...that's all. How the "west' Germany is looking down on the 'east' Germany. You mention Berlin in your profile, is it east or west? The physical wall may not be there, but what about the psychological?

z_darius 14 | 3,965

14 Dec 2007 / #167

6 Mill dead Poles later....good deal won't you agree?

If you consider the need Germans had for Turkish and Yugoslav workers because of shortage of men then the deal was mutual.

Hey! Aren't you perhaps half Turkish? Just a thought. You know, all those muslims in germany. You never know, eh?

Puzzler 9 | 1,088

14 Dec 2007 / #168

Tja...what can I say...

- I guess nichts, stupid Nazi butthead.

Przemas 1 | 101

14 Dec 2007 / #169

6 Mill dead Poles later....good deal won't you agree?

Good job Nazi – hope your ass is proud of your achievement.

Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,830

14 Dec 2007 / #170

Hehe...closet slav...half turkish...muslim....LOL :):):)

Good job Nazi – hope your ass is proud of your achievement.

My ass???
What has my slavic, muslim ass to do with that??? :)

z_darius 14 | 3,965

14 Dec 2007 / #171

You can't make all Germans to slavs...there MUST be also some Germans you know????

With the population growth of -0.2%, sure. All the richtige deutsche will be speaking a mix of Polish, Croatian, Serbian, Turkish and some German.

Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,830

14 Dec 2007 / #172

Not polisch!

Polish is not a language..it's a disease...without vowels...

I would break my tongue trying to speak that:

"pozycja niedostępna:
Ten produkt jest chwilowo niedostępny u wydawcy lub jego nakład wyczerpał się. Jeśli chcesz kupić ten produkt, proponujemy, żebyś raz na jakiś czas zaglądał na tę stronę i sprawdzał czy jest dostępny."

:(

:)

z_darius 14 | 3,965

14 Dec 2007 / #173

Polish is not a language..it's a disease

whatever it is, you caught it :)

Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,830

14 Dec 2007 / #174

Oh noooooooooooooo

Przemas 1 | 101

14 Dec 2007 / #175

6 Mill dead Poles later....good deal won't you agree?

If I ever met you in my travels and if you ever said these words to my face I would murder you on the spot in honor of my grandparents.

z_darius 14 | 3,965

14 Dec 2007 / #176

actually I'm glad I took part in this muud throwing. This reminded me I feel like a little kraut. I'll have some.

Eurola 4 | 1,902

14 Dec 2007 / #177

BBoy takes his typical approach (like in past), no facts, just quotes, copy and paste from nazi websites plus some nasty, personal attacks. He is just a messed up young man. Luckily, a minority. He does not know how to talk, debate, convince, have a discussion..etc. That's OK. If that's a young "Germans" attitude and thinking, well..Germany is lost, and that's good for Europe and the world.

z_darius, you waisting you brains on him.

BBoy - shame on you

Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,830

14 Dec 2007 / #178

Erm...when you would look back some sites you would see that I posted links, stats and quotes.
Mostly from Wikipedia, two german sites (no nazi) and the last one is from the Breslau city website...

I think I debate quite fine...only rarely resorting to swear words, won't you agree?
Did you actually READ the thread?

PS: It's actually ME who get's offended again and again (even my germanness is doubted)

:(

Bring some support for your allegations Eurola and I will shame accordingly!

PPS: Yeah okay...I called this falkster in the beginning "Schwuchtel"...but that was only once. Who else did I attack personally?

Przemas 1 | 101

15 Dec 2007 / #179

Justify this you piece of ****

6 Mill dead Poles later....good deal won't you agree?

Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,830

15 Dec 2007 / #180

How should I justify this? It was war...

War between people who hate each other, who want to kill each other....but in the end you get german lands free of Germans.

You remember your dead and we soon remember ours.

And how Lukasz showed with the uprisings and such...Poles wanted it too...the war.
Or else why did they boast "In one week in Berlin", why did they aggravate the Germans. No talks about a corridor to Danzig....

You just got your country back because of the Treaty of Versailles, whose wrongness and unfairness was the biggest cause for Hitlers rising in Germany...and you wanted more!

You were as nationalistic and fascistic as the Germans.
Or did you forget as Hitler destroyed the Czechs that you helped yourself to czech territory too?

It's all a bit complicated, but believe me...the mood was always poisoned!