Poland: dont blame us its the Germans.

Most of those poor bastards made a miserable PRL butcher careers as majors and captains only.

Most of those ******* ran as fast as wind in '56.
Now, today, these days, in XXI century they are VICTIMS. I love that hutzpa, don 't you H.?

Well ... of course crimes commited on Polish nation like expultions, slave laubour, murders were done by the Germans.

Well ... we all people know the story of Polish Jews but ... in my opinion Germans don't like to talk about what they have done for ... non-Jewish Polish citizens.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_crimes_against_ethnic_Poles




Well it wasn't English people who have done so but it was the Germans. The Germans were robbig whole country, the Germans were stealing everythnig what was valuable ...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost


In my opinion Germans with their vision of history (after reading their press) should be very careful and yes in my opinion they haven't been punished severe enough for what they have done.

Quite so. I thank you for pointing that, but not as much as I thank you for stating that a non-white is more likely to be the victim of racist crime in Poland than they are in Germany. Which was why I used the phrase “more than twice as likely”. Thank you for walking right into your spanking.


You have shown nothing of the kind. If you wanted to show that, you would need to demonstrate that if Poland had the same number of non-whites that Germany has, it would have exactly the same number of racist crimes. You can not prove that and any sane person can see it is not going to happen.


Thank you but we’ve already dealt with that twice. But if you really want we can deal with it again: I used the phrase “more than twice as likely”. Thank you for walking right into your spanking, would you like some more?


Do feel free to point out my lies. I’ve already pointed out your lies about Polish Jews in this thread, would you like me to post some of your racist comments from other threads?


I actually meant ‘us’ as in ‘the members of this forum who live in Poland’. But now you mention it, the Polish government consider that I’m Polish (I just have to fill in the form to get a passport).

Oh my ******* god.

Well when we look on facts ... from WWII ... Poles had the right to start exterminate Germans...

In case of using German plans against Germans ... nobody would say anything after 60 years.

It would be story of German nation which wanted to exterminate Polish nation but was exterminated in revenge.

For some reasons somebody teraten them softer ... that is why they are so impudent ...

What Poland should do ... Draw conclusions and next time make proper severe revenge.

Some basics for you:

1+1=2
1<2
1.33(...)<2


How on earth would you know what a sane person would do?
You'd have to be sane yourself first. You are sick with hatred.


I made no comments about Jews in this thread. Is hatred blinding you? You must be seeing things, huh?


Would there be more than the number of your racists posts?


Even if you did, you'd still be a homeless, hatred filled bigot, mutt with a Polish address and passport. Nothing's gonna change that Harry. Still a mutt. No matter how hard you try.

Krauts, Ruskis and Pols, don’t mix, simple as that.

As I dig deeper and deeper into Polish history and culture I've found myself reading several books by Norman Davies. Currently reading "The Rising".

I'm most impressed by his approach and apparent candor.

What is the reaction to his point of view by those living in Poland? is Norman Davies considered to be an author/historian who accurately reflects Polish history & surrounding circumstances?

Thanks,

Grzegorz

One of the very veeery few western historians with an unbiased view of history, Polish or otherwise, plus because he's an outsider he see's things most of us Poles would not notice but he's accurate none the less.

And some basics for you: you refused to admit that a non-white person in Poland is more likely to be the victim of racist crime than they would be in Germany. So I set a little trap for you and you blundered right in, agreeing that a non-white person in Poland is more likely to be the victim of racist crime than they would be in Germany.


Yet again you can not argue with the facts and so have to resort to ad hom insults. Boring.


You claimed that Poland never had any significant ethnic minorities. Clearly that is a lie: not so long ago 10% of Poles were Jews but you lied about their existence.


Repost some of my racist posts, if you can find any!


A Polish passport, a Polish address, came to Poland to help Poland and been living here for more than three quarters of the last two decades, hm, that would make me more Polish than you (you use a passport other than Polish, you have no Polish address, you left Poland solely to help yourself despite Poland needing you and you haven’t lived here for any of the last two decades). Although given the torrent of abuse I seem to have triggered from you, it seems that you are far more filled with hatred than I could ever be. Hope you really enjoy this post.

No, I refuse to pretend I don't know rudimentary arithmetic.


1. I did not use the word "Jews". Neither did I use the word "Ukrainian", and yet you you throw your usual allegations about Jews but not about Ukrainians. Is your hatred now expanding to other Slavic nations?

2. This only show my acceptance of the Jews as they did not occur to me as ethnic minorities but as Poles.

3. You have to decide what you're after. On the one hand you make claims about non white minorities and then you throw Jews in. As per your numbers there are 24,999 or the former, and it turns out there are at least 24,809 of the latter. That changes the chance of an ethnic minority to be attacked by Poles in half, thus bringing it far below that chance occurring in Germany, as now the potentaily attcked swell up to to almost 50,000.


sure:

Hitler saw the British as the natural allies of German in Europe, he considered the British empire in India to be a model for the German empire in the Slav territories. Britain was repeated offered peace with the only condition being that the Germans could do what they wanted to the east. Those offers were all refused. With hindsight the wisdom of those rejections is debateable.

This clearly shows you're anti-polish and a self hating jew.


Oh Harry, being a member of a nation is not the same as wearing a Halloween costume. If you're a pig, a leash won't turn you into a dog.


I use my Polish passport, still 4 years left on it. And I do have a Polish address. Above all, I am Polish. You have no Polish passport and you are not Polish. You claim you can have 15 different passports. And that's exactly what makes you a mutt.

Darius whats the point? Pretty much everyone else gave up on feeding that idiot by noticing his existence you just wind him up.

Your mistake is to blame one race when many races were involved.

The Nazi creed, the most vile plague that ever crawled this earth, established it's evil largely through racial hatred.
Nazis were the so-called Master "Race".
But it was only a matter of signing on the dotted line to become a member of the "Master Race". third class.

Race became a matter of party membership.

Nazis saw some races as a threat to the purity of the "Master Race".
They, Jews, needed exterminating, along with mentally ill, gypsies, etc.

Other races just needed their non-Nazi leaders exterminating.
The rest would be useful workers, incapable of original thought.
Nazi considered Poles fitted that category.
Big mistake.

The Nazis were happy to work "inferior" races to death as slave labour.
Polish Nazis were happy to work Polish slaves to death.
French Nazis were happy to work French slaves to death.

The creed is to blame not a race.

It's pointless blaming modern Germans for Nazi evils.
They are victims of Evil Adolph's crazy creed.
Modern Germans are not responsible in any way for the racial hatred that engulfed Europe after WW1.

Your blaming Germans, and Nazi-ism have much in common.
They are bloated with evil, and awash with racial hatred.

Blaming Germans for the Nazis is an Evil Creed.
Just as evil as Naziism.
And and spawned by the Evil genius.

Move on.
Attack Racial Hatred.
Attack Naziism.

There's probably less racial hatred in Germany today than in most other countries in Europe.

So you do or do not agree that a non-white person is more likely to be the victim of racist crime in Poland than they are in Germany? The figures are very very clear.


So you were lying. OK. I don't have to call you out on the lie about Ukrainians because Sjam has already done that.


Yeah, sure, right, of course it does.


Got a source for that figure, a source other than your arse I mean? Your own government, sorry, I mean the government of Poland, says that there are 1,133 Jews in Poland. But nice try with the unsourced statistics lie attempt.


That is the most racist post of mine you can find? Wow, I guess I must really be racist. The point of the post you quote is that it was useless for Britain to fight on in WWII because Poland could never have been liberated anyway: if the Germans didn't occupy Poland, the Soviets would and did.


I was wondering how long it would take for you to bring up the old "You're a Jew" insult. Nice touch, really adds weight to your argument. I do look forward to you telling me what "olihs" are so I can be against them.


What is this obsession you have with animals? No, on second thoughts don't tell me.


Yes, you use your Polish address all the time don't you? All important letters are sent to it. And I'm sure that you do use your Polish passport too, why bother using your Canadian passport to get into the USA when you can go to all the hassle of getting a visa for your Polish passport. You're Polish solely because you were born here. You no longer want to live here. You abandoned this country when she needed you solely because you wanted a better life. You betrayed Poland and even now you refuse to come back and do anything for Poland. Your Polish passport should be stripped from you, you are a disgrace to the nation.


Hi Sokrates, I'm still waiting for the police to come and arrest me after you called them to report me for talking about Polish concentration camps. Could you please call them again and ask them to hurry up? Cheers.

In a way it's exciting to see the beast pumping itself up. Maybe he's a hight blood pressure type and he'll explode with a stroke one day :)

On the other hand, you're right I kinda stepped into a pile of excrement under the nick of Harry.

Looking at the ranting and raving in your posts, I'd have to say it looks rather more likely that you'll pop a blood vessel before I do.

Won't go THAT far., AntiPolish - fvck yeah; self hating - hmm.........


Oh me fvcking god, you ARE a Polish bastard, aren't you, now ..... ?????

There is of course the tiny point that I'm not actually a Jew.

Darek knows this but continues to call me a Jew because he considers the word to be an insult when used against somebody who is not a Jew.

Why, but of course there is.

Darek, or whatever his fvcing name is, von't cshange zee fooking trrrrrue - du hate fooking Poles, yaaa, Herr Obersturmführer!

Why zee fook do you live amongst those Fookin' NASTY POLISH THUGS??!??

Few of them actually are nasty or thugs. Certainly fewer of them are nasty or thugs than in Britain.

It seems that most of the nasty and/or thuggish ones have left Poland.

Speaking of whom, the Polish?


Kinda lost here..


Have they?
Being a patriot doesn't necessary mean TO LIVE in a given country, does it, H?

Harry, ......
oh Harry....

Yes, the Polish.

Note to all: Please get back on topic otherwise the thread will close.

As usual,

..

devastated.

It is interesting that between the wars Polish ethnologists spent a great deal of time and effort 'proving' that groups like the Lemko and Hutsul were polish and spoke Polish dialects. Come 1947 and Akcja Wisła these groups were redefined 'Ukrainian'.

Your mistake is to blame one race when many races are involved.

The Nazi creed, the most vile plague that ever crawled this earth, established it's evil largely through racial hatred.

And you still haven't learnt the lesson that lies in the in the horrors brought about by [b]negative racial discrimination have you?[/b]

You are still banging on like Evil Adolph's biggest fans.

Take the advice that Thumper's mother offered him,

'If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all.'

Is that necessarily a good thing though?

I think that's an interesting number, in fact the whole exchange between you and Harry is mildly entertaining, I digress though. Poland isn't a major attraction for a lot of immigrants, i wonder if that number, whatever its veracity, would go up or down if that social dynamic went on the increase.

I pass no judgment here, just noticed a curiosity.

If you are so well informed about the issue, you should notice that these periods have very little in common, including ruling establishment. Anyway Akcja Wisla was orchestrated by Stalin, without his approval nothing like that could happen.


Yes it is, immigration policy should be run by the state ruled by reasonable elites. While people should save their energy for some positive actions that would improve their comfort of living.

No, unfortunately most of the peeps on this thread can't see that they are guilty of fostering the same kind of hatred. I'm relieved whenever I see the existance of a handful of posters who are objective enough to see what is happening.

There are a lot of revenge-seeking creatures here......some because they have stories of how their families suffered and it has created a new generation of haters (we can debate whether or not they are justified in their hate all day and night, but that doesn't change the fact that the hate is being perpetuated).

I really believe that babies are born without hate. It is learned. The babies grow up and read things, hear things and make personal decisons about how to react to that information.

What I can see shopgirl you really hate to see people going about their post-war grieves

And are very keen to quickly coin it as hate.

Look for the beam in your own eye sometimes.

Who do you suppose that I hate?
Not Poles.
Not Germans.

So who?