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What Happened in the Danzig Corridor 1939? Poles Slaughtering Germans?


Matyjasz 2 | 1,544  
8 Apr 2008 /  #31
How much more? Some more of Lithuania? Some more of Ukraine? Some more of the Czech Republic? Why not some more of Germany?

If you insist. :)
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,897  
8 Apr 2008 /  #32
As I said...take that what you have first and try to make something with it.
Just increasing your borders won't make you more successfull...
Matyjasz 2 | 1,544  
8 Apr 2008 /  #33
I shall repeat it like a mantra from now on. I also have a nasty pain in my back. What do you think I should do about it? ;)
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,897  
8 Apr 2008 /  #34
I also have a nasty pain in my back. What do you think I should do about it?

...take the knife out of it? :)
Matyjasz 2 | 1,544  
8 Apr 2008 /  #35
Dolchstoß, eh? You Germans seem to be quite obsessed with it. ;)
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,897  
8 Apr 2008 /  #36
Knifes, Blades, Swords....now where did I put my sword! *goes searching*

:)
plk123 8 | 4,148  
8 Apr 2008 /  #37
Somehow I missed your righteous indignation at that:

hey, you attack another country, what the hell do you expect? this was defence and that's all.
celinski 31 | 1,258  
8 Apr 2008 /  #38
you attack another country, what the hell do you expect?

Silence
plk123 8 | 4,148  
8 Apr 2008 /  #39
no flowers and cheers? ;)
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,897  
8 Apr 2008 /  #40
Do we look like Americans to you?
plk123 8 | 4,148  
8 Apr 2008 /  #41
yes, your moves in the 30s were exactly the same as US' in 2001-2002.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,897  
8 Apr 2008 /  #42
Yup...preemptive invasion against the communists/bolschewik hordes!
Sorry but we had to move over you as you were on the way...:(
plk123 8 | 4,148  
8 Apr 2008 /  #43
you must be conviniently forgot about the pact you made with those pesky bolsheviks.. hmmm
polishcanuck 7 | 462  
8 Apr 2008 /  #44
Kraut, poland was the victim in ww2 and "slaughters" are quite common in war. Exterminations of ethnic groups, like the one your grandfather participated in, on the other hand, are not normal. Go read some non-nazi books.

Educate yourself, kraut, visit this url: www . auschwitz . org . pl , also google nurnberg trials.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,897  
8 Apr 2008 /  #45
Oh get lost! You take yourself far to seriously! :)
Jozef Pilsudski - | 25  
8 Apr 2008 /  #46
Yeah...well...so was the whole polish campaign! : )

From the German perspective, I'm sure it was. However, you folks should not be took quick to go on such wild sprees in the future. You already lost Konigsberg to the Russians and have been immasculated as a nation.

How much more? Some more of Lithuania? Some more of Ukraine? Some more of the Czech Republic? Why not some more of Germany?

It is not enough. There should be no Germans or Czechs in Silesia; it is a Polish region.
lesser 4 | 1,311  
8 Apr 2008 /  #47
Bratwurst Boy

Talking about borders... :) I don't have enough time, I leave this to Crow to explain you the meaning of this map.

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OP joepilsudski 26 | 1,389  
8 Apr 2008 /  #48
Joe your ststements are so idiotic that I am not going to discusse it. Poles and Jews killing Germans ? Bolsheviks in western Poland (LOL) before WWII ?!? you are sick...
it is good that you edited this part of your post ...

I didn't edit anything; the moderators censored my post...If you were unable to read what I originally wrote, it was this, in a nutshell: During my high school years,

and as a young man, and even until today, I have had many close Jewish friends...we were from the generation that came of age in the 60's and early 70's,

we opposed the Vietnam War, and many forms of corruption that are even more rampant today...in fact, the issue of ethnicity never arose among us...we were Italians, Poles, Jews, Ukranians, Irish, Anglo-Saxon, Blacks etc...there was never any emnity based on who you parents were...now, one day when I was in my late 20's I visited my mother...while I was at her house I read a copy of a regional Polish

newspaper...I beleive it was published out of Newark, NJ...as I scanned through the paper, I read a number of articles that would be considered 'anti-semitic'...in fact,

they were almost, shall I say, 'Nazi' in tone...I was stunned, as my wife at that time was Jewish...I asked my mother what the meaning of these articles were...She became quite subdued, then told me 'Joe, a lot of things happened in Poland back in the 30's and WWII, things that you won't read about in the newspapers here...the story is very complicated.'...I just listened to her, and I couldn't really respond...I had seen a movie called 'The Tin Drum', which depicted Poles before the war as 'anti-semites'...when I saw these articles, I really began to wonder what had happened over in the old country...so, I filed away these articles in my memory bank, and said, 'One day you will research this'.

Now, as I was growing up, our next door neighbors were a German family who came to America after Germany lost the war...they were very nice people; I forget the dad's name, as he was always working, but the mom's name was Margaret and her children were Jesse, Sylvia and Rita...Margaret, the mother, always seemed sad, and I overheard her talking to my mother a number of times about how bad things were in Germany for many Germans after they lost the war...this stuck in my mind,

and so I began to want to learn about real history.

This is what I was referring to...what is the meaning of this?...is there truth here?

Now I will speak about the moderators on this Forum...you see the URL link posted there?...this was not the link I originally posted...the moderators changed it...why?...because maybe this link, the Judicial-Biz link is considered 'anti-semitic'

and they want to paint me as something I am not...in fact, many web sites share the same information about various issues...but why did they change it?...this is

dishonesty...they also edited out my story about my younger days, and my recollections about my German neighbors, and also my Jewish friends...why is this important?...because I just want to get the whole story here, and have no axe to grind with any group of people...I love all people, even those who misrepresent me.

Dzhaklin 3 | 166  
8 Apr 2008 /  #49
Actually it just makes me think you were looking at a middle schoolers history report and calling it a source.
plk123 8 | 4,148  
8 Apr 2008 /  #50
yeah, i find their meddling with post rather disturbing.
Dzhaklin 3 | 166  
8 Apr 2008 /  #51
I've had it happen to me but it didn't change the meaning of my message. I don't know yeah its a little bothersome but I don't think admin is out to get people....
OP joepilsudski 26 | 1,389  
8 Apr 2008 /  #52
yeah, i find their meddling with post rather disturbing.

Quite so...you know, there are many intelligent people who post on this Forum, and it is important to let people speak out...if these 'edits' are merly a matter of 'server space', then they should get access to better servers that will accomodate the users of PolishForum better...I post on many Forums, and this is the only one where I see this meddling happening...Now, as far as what happened in the Danzig Corridor,from the different responses and links others have posted it seems like these mass killings did occur...here is something:

Emboldened by Roosevelt and Churchill guarantees Rydz Smigly and Ignacy Moscicki , the head of Poland's army and it's president were saber rattling.

These fellows were the succesors to Iosef Pilsudski...it seems that they were very
vain fools, and had no comprehension of the bigger picture of what was happening...Iosef Pilsudski apparently had a good working relationship with Hitler as far as German-Polish issues were concerned...Pilsudski was realistic, as he knew what Communism meant to the people who lived under it...Hitler also hated Communism.
Dzhaklin 3 | 166  
8 Apr 2008 /  #53
f these 'edits' are merly a matter of 'server space', then they should get access to better servers that will accomodate the users of PolishForum better...I post on many Forums

Are you volunteering to help pay for it??
OP joepilsudski 26 | 1,389  
8 Apr 2008 /  #54
I wish I could afford it, but I am financially embarrased at the moment...however,
maybe I could help sell some advertising...my city, Philadelphia, has a sizable Polish-American community, and maybe some businesses would be interested...I will consider this and possibly fill out their form...interestingly, when I started posting on here, the owner of the PF was listed as an 'import-export' company based in Connecticut...but now there is a completely new address...maybe a new owner...possibly a new web design with more room for advertising space would be good...Thanks for your suggestion.
isthatu2 4 | 2,702  
8 Apr 2008 /  #55
Bolsheviks in western Poland (LOL) before WWII ?!?

where do you think the postwar polish reds came from then,namibia?

joe, are you a szwab or something? that was the story spun by hitler. i am not so sure if it's true at all.

no its not,in the days following the german invasion hundreds of ethnic germans were killed by their neighbours.why is everyone so surprised/shocked.it happwns in pretty much every war,when it comes down to it being polish doesnt stop things.
plk123 8 | 4,148  
8 Apr 2008 /  #56
Emboldened by Roosevelt and Churchill guarantees Rydz Smigly and Ignacy Moscicki , the head of Poland's army and it's president were saber rattling.

come on joe.. you're quoting a blanket statement that has no sources of any sort. that's like me writing it and you quoting as some kind of proof or whatever. and we all know how most feel about that site anyway, right?

Are you volunteering to help pay for it??

is it his forum really? seems he has no say about a whole lot, doesn't it? do you?

no its not,in the days following the german invasion hundreds of ethnic germans were killed by their neighbours.why is everyone so surprised/shocked.it happwns in pretty much every war,when it comes down to it being polish doesnt stop things.

you can't say all that in one breath.. it did happen but not the way nazis are still trying to spin it. it only happened after they attacked. retaliation but not the reason for starting a world war.
Magdalena 3 | 1,837  
10 Apr 2008 /  #57
'The Tin Drum',

...is a movie based on a novel by German novelist Gunter Grass, and concerns the German inhabitants of Gdańsk, a city with an uneasy history and complicated ethnic makeup since the Middle Ages. The novel describes the rise of Nazi ideology among the ordinary people of German extraction living in Gdańsk, the way nasty things become acceptable when spoon-fed with a lot of sugar. I read it, I should know. Poles are mentioned of course, but more in passing, as a backdrop to the main story, and I do not remember them being portrayed as anti-semitic.

Actually, maybe reading a few books by Gunter Grass would be a good way for you to start learning the history of this area.
OP joepilsudski 26 | 1,389  
10 Apr 2008 /  #58
joepilsudski:
Emboldened by Roosevelt and Churchill guarantees Rydz Smigly and Ignacy Moscicki , the head of Poland's army and it's president were saber rattling.


come on joe.. you're quoting a blanket statement that has no sources of any sort. that's like me writing it and you quoting as some kind of proof or whatever. and we all know how most feel about that site anyway, right?

If you read the aricle I attached to my original post, you will see the attitude of Roosevelt, and the British (Lord Halifax/Churchill) toward provoking a war is illustrated in much detail...as a side note, I have suggested many times on this Forum that Poland would be wise not to trust false promises of 'protection' made by the US or the EU...they 'promisd' Poland a lot before WWII and then look what happened!
plk123 8 | 4,148  
10 Apr 2008 /  #59
yes, me too.
isthatu2 4 | 2,702  
11 Apr 2008 /  #60
Yeah,but thing is Joe,your so obviously deluded in your whole holocaust denial outlook that,well,frankly anything you come out with should be taken with a bl oody big pinch of salt.

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